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First 2018 MacBook Pro Orders Set to Be Delivered Tomorrow
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If there is a problem with the new keyboard, as Apple finally admitted with the current (for many people), people may see a 4 year warranty / replacement on the keyboard.It should be 14m policy for the keyboard.
That could be down to Windows laptop users doing actual work and MacBook users just browsing Facebook for all I know. That isn't conclusive of anything.
Also, an airport seems like the kind of place you may see a lot of old/cheap laptops too, which will definitely have poor track pads. Most businesses provide rugged but far from premium laptops to their employees.
Not even close. One of the first Powerbook G3 models from the late 90s, adjusted to today's inflation, was $10,000. My first 17" fairly well-specced model was over $3,500. The prices don't appear to have changed from last year, the only gap is the lower-end models haven't been updated (yet?). Some of the CTO options are definitely pricey though.
Maybe they don’t need my business, but there is no need for you to be so rude.
Mostly what will keep the 6-core MBP from matching the iMac Pro is thermal restrictions from the laptop form factor. At only 45W TDP it has to be down-clocked significantly compared to its desktop brethren. The 95W TDP 8th Gen Core i7-8700K at high clock speeds (so in the 125W range, usually) gets close to/matches the 8-core iMac Pro.
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I doubt the non-Touch Bar 13” MBP will be updated. While there is an 8th-gen Core i5 with 4 cores that hits the 15W TDP target for that model, there isn’t a 15W Core i7 equivalent that would be any faster (since any 15W version of that part would be down-clocked to meet that thermal target). Of course, the 15W restriction in that case is largely an issue of market segmentation, since the identical case is used for the 28W 4-core parts used in the Touch Bar version, so… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think it’s possible but if it happens it will upset people want a high end Mac touch bar. Unless this line has BTO options to bring it in line with the 13” MBP with touch bar?
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Is or was? I have a hard time believing Apple would put out new models with the same keyboard issues that would require repair or replace down the line. How is that good for Apple? Whatever the issue I can’t image it was so complex that it required all new tooling and manufacturing lines to fix.
Serious question here: Why do MBPs get hit with the most “Apple Tax”?
Ipads are fairly priced, iMac Pros are fairly priced, 27” retina iMacs are a great value considering their beautiful 5K panel, but Damn!!! MBPs are in another stratosphere with their pricing.
For work I ordered a Dell XPS 15 – 8th gen i9, 32GB 2400mhz DDR4 RAM, 1TB SSD, 4K IPS touch panel screen, Windows 10 Pro edition. Total = $2750, before tax. (After calling Dell and talking down the price from $2979)
Same specs for MBP 15” = $3899.
$1149 in difference. Why? Is it because, after iPhone, it’s their best selling large value item?
I own every major apple product except the watch and headphones, so I’m not trying to troll, but genuinely curious.
Ipads are fairly priced, iMac Pros are fairly priced, 27” retina iMacs are a great value considering their beautiful 5K panel, but Damn!!! MBPs are in another stratosphere with their pricing.
For work I ordered a Dell XPS 15 – 8th gen i9, 32GB 2400mhz DDR4 RAM, 1TB SSD, 4K IPS touch panel screen, Windows 10 Pro edition. Total = $2750, before tax. (After calling Dell and talking down the price from $2979)
Same specs for MBP 15” = $3899.
$1149 in difference. Why? Is it because, after iPhone, it’s their best selling large value item?
I own every major apple product except the watch and headphones, so I’m not trying to troll, but genuinely curious.
It's their best selling Mac, though I am not sure if this is the reason behind why those margins are the way they are.
No, as it's about the design they like, not about what their customer want…
Would that be great? But my Mac Pro is still hitting 31k on Geekbench. I think the 6 core i9 is coming in at something like 22k? I think. But I can't tell you what a difference it would make to me to have that kind of power in my bag – I'd be able to stop holding my breath for 5 years! What a joke. Wonder if they'll release the new Pro with zero fanfare and at a HUGE price point? Quietly: here's what you want – that'll be $30,000 thank you.
What do you think of the fact that the base MacBook still has the 2nd Gen Keyboard? Seems odd to me.
I am sorry to say this about Apple as a long time fan, but I think Apple has reached that state where they feel like they can force their products and prices on people because people are too tied to their ecosystem and they have the upper hand. Its no longer '99 when Jobs needed to create tempting products to bring consumers over to the Apple side.
We need competition, and we need competition now. There was a Google for Yahoo, and T-Mobile for AT&T, and Playstation for Nintendo, and now its time for a new company to emerge to compete against Apple and Microsoft. 2 Operating systems for the 7 billion people on earth is just too restrictive.
We need competition, and we need competition now. There was a Google for Yahoo, and T-Mobile for AT&T, and Playstation for Nintendo, and now its time for a new company to emerge to compete against Apple and Microsoft. 2 Operating systems for the 7 billion people on earth is just too restrictive.
I'm not sure I'd go that far. I have a 2016 model and I love the keyboard. I prefer it greatly over the older style. My wife still has a 2013 model and every time I do something on it the keys always feel very mushy.
Its definitely a preference thing. Some people like it, some people don't. I wouldn't go as far as to say it is universally reviled though.
There are any number of OS choices. The problem is application support for them. Without applications an OS has limited value.
The keyboard generally fails because of heat - it warps the tiny metal structure of the butterfly mechanism and destabilizes it. The Macbooks are already very much heat constrained, as they throttle heavy loads almost immediately, which makes no sense for a machine with such capabilities. it´s the same with iMacs. The bad cooling design is more or less planned obsolescence by engineering.
It is true and whats more Apple have taken away a certain amount of flexibility with their USB-C only policy. Are they unaware the majority of peripherals remain to be USB 3
Yes there is the dongle argument for which a healthy market has emerged but these should not have been necessary had Apple have been less shortsighted.
well OpenBSD and Amiga OS are not real alternatives. You need something on par with support that can completely replaces it. Linux has been out there for decades but last I heard its still lacking in user-friendlyness and support. Most major app developers don't support it, installation and updates are complex for average user, and support is kind of like your on your own.
The current pro tower is 5 years old at this point. I am surprised it took this long honestly.
I'm not sure you are objecting to what I wrote or reinforcing it. Your post does the latter.
The starting prices have stayed exactly the same as compared to the last version. The BTO options have changed of course, but that 2.9ghz i9 is a beast and very expensive for every OEM. 99% of people don't need it that cpu. The stock 6-core 2.2ghz i7 is more than enough.
I think the one part time guy they have working on the new mac pro ran out of spare time.