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The 2015 z06 should HANDILLY beat the GTR in the hands of any good driver on nearly any track on any day. Heck, the z06 should even beat the NISMO GTR($150,000) in most cases(a more curvy track will favor the corvette) with a good driver.

The base model GTR (not the black, or the Nismo) is more in line with the base corvette, and a base GTR starts at $101,000 while the base corvette is $55,000

For example at VIR, the 2015 z06 posted a 2:41.3 which is FASTER than the 918 at 2:43.1 and a 918 is a million dollars! (to be fair to the Porche, these laps were on different days with different drivers, but still)


Just look:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2014-ll2-class-feature
The base corvette ($65,000/tested ) absolutely DOMINATED it's class in the Lightning lap, over 12 seconds faster than the next fastest.
It even beats everything in the next class higher
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2014-ll3-class-feature
except for GM's own z/28 camaro. (this is the base corvette were talking about here)

The base corvette is 8.8 seconds faster than the Porsche Cayman S;
The base corvette is even faster that the Audi R8 V-10 Plus which is almost 3 times the price

Around VIR the Nismo GTR does a 2:49.4, again, over 8 seconds slower than a z06 vette, and only 4.4 seconds faster than the base corvette

Heck, the NISMO GTR is only 1.5 seconds faster than a z/28 Camaro at VIR.

AND the base Corvette beats all of these cars above while getting 30 MPG on the highway in eco-mode.

This is the standard that a world class super car should use to measure and I see corvettes are way down at the bottom. They're not slow, but just not as fast.

https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
 
huh.. I'm not going Auto-X with the Z, but I'd take up that challenge against a skyline at any race track, given the opportunity.
I'm not about all straight lines either, and the C6 compared to a civic.. really ? :rolleyes: The race, friendly of course ;), was not just on a straight stretch of road..some nice twists up here in Colorado :cool:

I didn't mean to compare the C6with civics. Just a reference. Anywho,
This is the standard that a world class super car should use to measure and I see corvettes are way down at the bottom. They're not slow, but just not as fast.

https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
 
Big heavy engine in the front with a ton of understeer...the American way. After driving lightweight mid engined cars for the last 10 years, I can't go back.
Understeer? In a Corvette? I laugh at you and weep for you at the same time. Sir, step away from the crack pipe. Understeer and Corvette should never be in the same sentence. High horsepower RWD cars are prone to oversteer. Understeer is typically the provenance of FWD or AWD cars. Understeer, tehe.
 
Corvettes have come with a pad behind the door panel that does something similar since 2005. As long as the key fob is in range you could squeeze the little pad behind the door handle and it would unlock the car. Adding Touch ID would be a pretty cool upgrade.

I believe since the C5 you just walk away and the doors look automatically. No need to touch your FOB. I believe the same is true when approaching the door. You get close enough and the driver side unlocks on it's own. I will check tomorrow to be sure.
 
Your use of the term "efficient" got me thinking. What other car offers over 400 horsepower (actually 460), incredible looks, world class quality and performance, AND GETS OVER 30 MILES PER GALLON ON THE HIGHWAY?

I'll save the peanut gallery the time needed to research this: NONE.
A 2003ish Corvette is probably the best cheapest way to get 400 hp
 
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I didn't mean to compare the C6with civics. Just a reference. Anywho,
This is the standard that a world class super car should use to measure and I see corvettes are way down at the bottom. They're not slow, but just not as fast.

https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
You and I have extremely different definitions of way down at the bottom. #'s 13 and 15 in the top 100 can't really be considered way down can it? BTW, Corvettes are not super cars.

FYI, 'Ring lap times will no longer be the standard. They have stopped allowing record runs on the 'Ring. Most unfortunate since the ban was enacted only days before CvK was going to run the One:1. Dammit man!
 
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I'm sure you're not, but weirdly enough, the other people who don't care about it aren't in here loudly proclaiming it.

Which reminds me, I don't care about the new retina Macbook. I must go over there right now and tell everyone.

Is posting a comment on a forum "loudly proclaiming" something? This IS a forum and people are here to post their opinions on any topic they choose. Just as you have chosen to go the douche sarcasm option in this instance.
 
But it almost definitely would require the right hardware. Do we know what that will be?
We don't know for sure. It's my understanding that the wireless connection is over Wi-Fi. So most of your 2016 GM cars and trucks would be covered there with the 4G LTE Wi-Fi system. I understand from some OnStar people that the Wi-Fi system is connected to the head unit, even though they are not using it at this point. One might hope that there has been some planning here and only a software update will be needed, but that has not always been my experience with GM systems. Let's hope!
 
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Yes, and too bad it requires a cable to do the CarPlay™ -- no wireless CarPlay™ for now, kinda sucks, right?

From what I understand, the systems they are installing in these right now cannot do wireless at all, and the phone will have the capability before the wireless CarPlay™ starts showing up in cars.
Uh, that makes it worse than regular Bluetooth. But I always wire my phone in the car anyway. Might as well charge it, right?

BTW, I installed an AirPlay receiver in a 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (LOL using an aux -> cassette tape thingy), hoping to get CarPlay on the cheap, and it seems Apple has accidentally (or intentionally?) prevented anyone from doing that by having a bug in iOS. If you join a wifi network with no Internet connection, it won't fall back to 4G. You can get around that by setting the router to 0.0.0.0. Then you have access to the wifi network still, but literally everything works EXCEPT AirPlay. It sees the receiver, tries to play for 5 seconds, then stops. Agh!
 
I personally would rather wait for confirmed wireless CarPlay. Having to plug in my phone everytkme I got into my car seems like a hassle.
 
I personally would rather wait for confirmed wireless CarPlay. Having to plug in my phone everytkme I got into my car seems like a hassle.
Well at least in the Stingray there's a hidden compartment with a USB port, that makes it considerably less clumsy.

Besides I think wireless will be an update in the car when iOS 9 arrives. Wifi is already present and talks to the head unit, so why not?
 
Wait, how is a Dodge Viper so high in those rankings? I've never been in one, but I heard they can't handle worth...

There're different versions of vipers. The one on that list is almost a race car, not one from factory.
 
I see Corvettes at 13 and 15. And if memory serves me correct, one of those two was near the top of the pack for a production car a while back. Now factor in bang for the buck.

If you just look for bang for the buck then corvette is a good choice, but not everyone is looking for bang for the buck and that's why there's something for everyone. What bug is is when someone think that they made a smarter choice when they pick a corvette and think others are fools when they buy Porsche, or Ferrari.
 
GM is undergoing a sort of renaissance over the last few years. It started with the Stingray and now has filtered to the new Malibu and Camaro. They are a brand to be taken seriously. I am quite happy as an American to see this happening. We finally have vehicles that can compete on a global scale.

In April I was set to place an order for a Stingray. I decided to wait for the 2016 model year to see if CarPlay would be on board. I'm happy to say that Chevrolet is the first company delivering CarPlay to consumers and it's across their entire lineup.

Bravo GM.

So yes the Stingray is a nice vehicle, but it's a niche market and GM has always been known for throwing all of their resources into niche markets while letting their mainstream moneymakers wither on the vine.

Take that new Malibu your talking about and really compare it to the Malibu it replaced. Guess what? Many say it is actually a step backwards. Don't take my word for it. Review after review questioned the same thing. Second, compared to the other cars in it's class its sales have been mediocre at best. Even if you take away the Camry and Accord it fails to compete with the Fusion in technology, style and sales. It's a great example of GM design by committee.

Then let's look at GMs biggest money maker. Right now I see GM is making fun of Ford for building the body panels of the new F-150 out of aluminum. Somehow they feel steel is better, but insiders are saying the next Silverado will be built with aluminum. What? GM thought EcoBoost was a stupid idea, but you know darn well they will go down the same path in the future. That's the problem... GM always has excuses why old technology is better like pushrod engines, and then eventually follows the rest years down the line.

If you look at another money makers for them... Tahoe, Suburban, Yukon, Escalade... How in the world can you take a vehicle that was one of the slickest big SUVs ever made and turn it into a box that looks like it was designed to haul coffins? I don't know how you do that, but I have never seen style go so backwards in one design cycle. Yes they still sell well, but I am totally disappointed with the direction they took. Many others feel the same way.

I won't even get into the recall mess or past sins like the Oldsmobile diesel. Yes all companies have made mistakes and all have built lemons. The issue with GM is they never learn. They are still too bloated for their market share. They are still one bad economic downturn with high gas prices away from bankruptcy number 2. The Government bailout let them continue with very few real structural changes made. They cut a few brands, but the culture of the corporation is still screwed up.

Anyhow yes this Corvette is a nice car, but things like this won't save GM. They are just not innovators when it comes to the mass market. When I stated that most Apple users wouldn't be caught dead in a GM vehicle it really was more of an opinion, however GM and Apple are so unlike each other when it comes to design, direction and culture I don't think that opinion is too far off. I've seen all the car threads around here and very few buy or drive GM stuff. If they do they don't want to tell anyone.

Also I am not against American vehicles since I drive a 2014 Ford Explorer. I am just against a corporation taking my tax money and then refusing to really fix what was wrong with the company in the first place. Are GM vehicles better today then they were 10-20 years ago? Yes, but they are still a follower and not a leader. They are still run by the bean counters and are still in the badge engineering business. I could go on and on, but I'll leave it at that. Enjoy your new Corvette. I am sure it will be a beautiful automobile.
 
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Understeer? In a Corvette? I laugh at you and weep for you at the same time. Sir, step away from the crack pipe. Understeer and Corvette should never be in the same sentence. High horsepower RWD cars are prone to oversteer. Understeer is typically the provenance of FWD or AWD cars. Understeer, tehe.
Nah. Plow into a turn too fast and you'll know what I mean. Driven vettes around tracks and along the countryside, and that heavy front end sucks. I laugh at your idiotic comment.
 
Nah. Plow into a turn too fast and you'll know what I mean. Driven vettes around tracks and along the countryside, and that heavy front end sucks. I laugh at your idiotic comment.

The Corvette has enough power to easily bring the tail out to counter under steer.
 
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