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It's funny. Maybe not earth-shattering, but funny.

I think Apple gets a little more of a pass with regard to using Windows for the creation of some of their products—they advertise Bootcamp/Windows as one of the Intel Macs' strengths. "Hey, you can use Windows on a Mac now!" So it isn't as if they're saying, "Don't ever dirty your hands with Windows." Macs run Windows. Macs do it all.

I think the little bit of humor/irony is that Microsoft was looking for the best agency to make their ads, and the best apparently use Macs. Moreover, use Macs with cross-platform software (Photoshop), so it isn't even as if they used the Macs for some software that was Mac-only. It's just funny, that's all. It's just an acknowledgement that there are areas where Macs dominate—that you can't escape them. Some die-hard Windows fanboys try to hand-wave away the fact that Macs still dominate some areas—are an industry standard in some sectors. But here we have evidence—iron-clad proof. If Microsoft cannot escape hiring a design company that uses Macs, then that really says something.

Oh, and the thing about the ad agency quickly changing their help wanted ad from "Got wise and got a Mac" to "Got wise and got a Vista PC"? That is Classic. Oh yes.
 
Who cares

Why is this a big deal. Don't you all think that MS should focus on the ad quality. WHo would even check these things? I don't really get it
 
Why is this a big deal. Don't you all think that MS should focus on the ad quality. WHo would even check these things? I don't really get it

It's more the hilarity of the fact the ad company changed their help wanted page, and what they said in the changed version, which I can't help but feel as if they were making fun of Windows Vista and their users in the "water cooled" comment.
 
This is news? It's as ironic as Apple store using Windows mobile software for their wireless check out. Here's the deal, Ad agencies, graphic design studios and music studio are mostly Apples. Businesses, game companies and FX studios are mostly PC. Imagine if MS told companies they wont deal with them unless they use Window. I'm sure the whole Apple community would be in an uproar if MS ever did this.
 
I've been a PC user for the longest time. My first experience with a Mac was one of those really old ones (I believe it was a Macintosh Classic) in my elementary school. Then I really got around to using computers, got a Gateway 2000 computer handed down to me, moved on to a Dell T500, and so forth.

Then three weeks ago, I bought my first Mac. It was a black MacBook. And I must say that I am incredibly pleased with it. In fact, I prefer it over my PC for my daily tasks that primarily include reading websites and typing up my screenplay (finding software was a bit of scare for me, but I was lucky enough to find Celtx and Final Draft on Mac). I just like the way that Macs render the text. I find it more readable than a PC.

Anyway, that was kind of a ramble. I personally don't find this news to be really noteworthy. Not that I'm saying it should've been posted or that the submitter did anything wrong. But the thing is that any true professional will be brand-agnostic. They will use the best tools available to get the job done. And considering that they used cross-platform software, and NOT a Mac exclusive, I find it to be even less compelling to report.

Anyway, I can see the irony/humor in it, but really, I don't see this as a win or a loss for either Microsoft or Apple.
 
I doubt Microsoft even makes the ads I think their ad agency would probably handle that right? Or as least that way they can blame all of these ads on someone.

Edit: 250th post. Cool.
 
interesting but so what?

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Microsoft hired an ad company to create ads for them. That ad company apparently used macs to make these ads. Macs are known for their graphics superiority to windows computers. Windows computers are superior to macs in the work area, in gaming, and just sheer applicability to most programs all over the globe. I am bioengineering major and all the serious programs out there to construct models of bio structures are all windows only, when I asked my professor whether he knew of any mac compatible program I could use...he fanatically laughed at me. So I was forced to pirate a copy of Windows XP and install it via bootcamp. Although you should know I had to delete my genuine copy of Windows Vista Ultimate because those programs don't work smoothly with Vista either. And I just have to say, the environment at mac stores is just soo uncomfortable, very similar to cults. All the token mac people are there, I mean this with no offense as I am a 2 year mac user.This is all not to mention price!! Everything that has the name mac or apple etched onto it suddenly costs more. So come on macies, chill out! This is getting ridiculous.
 
I don't see what all the fuss is about. Microsoft hired an ad company to create ads for them. That ad company apparently used macs to make these ads. Macs are known for their graphics superiority to windows computers.

I don't think that Microsoft (or many PC fanboys) really want to concede this. That's the point.

Hey, I'm happy with the reputation Macs have for being better for use in graphics and video. So in that context, no, it's not a big surprise or a revelation that Microsoft used an agency who has Macs.

But not everyone else is willing to admit that. For those who are fuss and argue about Macs' reputation for superiority in graphics and video, it is a bit amusing to see how Microsoft—Microsoft of all companies—had to use an agency who used Macs, (because after all, Macs dominate that field). What rationalization will some of the PC fanboys give for that? :D
 
Since Apple markets their computers as being capable of running Windows, it's not as huge of an issue. But consider that there are PC fanboys who try to deny that Macs have any use at all? This story is funny in that context, that's all. The great Microsoft had to use these useless computers in their ad campaign.
 
I don't see what the big deal is. Sure, it is a potential P.R. gaffe, but at the same time, it's common for the creative agency to produce all the digital assets directly... So, the fact that CP+B use Macs in their environment to produce a Microsoft ad may be unfortunate, but the agency is not going to switch their environment for one campaign.
 
I don't think that Microsoft (or many PC fanboys) really want to concede this. That's the point.

Hey, I'm happy with the reputation Macs have for being better for use in graphics and video. So in that context, no, it's not a big surprise or a revelation that Microsoft used an agency who has Macs.

But not everyone else is willing to admit that. For those who are fuss and argue about Macs' reputation for superiority in graphics and video, it is a bit amusing to see how Microsoft—Microsoft of all companies—had to use an agency who used Macs, (because after all, Macs dominate that field). What rationalization will some of the PC fanboys give for that? :D

Actually Mac's GPU selection sucks compare to Window.
 
not the first time

i can't recall what the other time was, but this is not the first time this has happened. las time it happend those images were pulled and then had their info updated to not display that.
 
I don't see what the big deal is.

It's only an issue because Microsoft scrambled to change the metadata in the images, and the ad agency scrambled to change their "help wanted" ad from boasting Mac skillz to boasting Vista skillz. But the Interwebs know all, there is no escape!

Non-issues require non-actions. But both Microsoft and the ad agency felt the need to act on these so-called "non-issues" (the ad agency, no doubt, was financially motivated).

THAT is the hilarious part :D
 
The thing I'D like to know is...

...were the agency TOLD by MS to change their advert (the one from Mac to PC), or did they do it themselves?

I rather suspect the former...

I can see that clip of Steve "Monkey Boy" Ballmer, above, being a real film of him turning up to scare the bejeesus out of the ad agency, and "teach them the error of their ways!
 
Regardless, there is no CAD programs for Mac OS X that is at least currently maintained. Even if a firm decides to buy a Mac, they're going to need to load Windows on it, which equates to money in the pocket. Microsoft doesn't sell computer hardware, so they couldn't care less as to what platform it's used on.

I guess that I did not make my point very well. I will try again.

I agree that right now, there are no suitable Mac native CADD programs for Civil and Mechanical engineers. However, with VMWare (or BootCamp) one can run AutoCAD essentially the same as is possible on a Windows PC. Your correct that this requires the purchase of VMWare Fusion (around $80) and a copy of Windows XP (around $130 if you don't already have one) to do so.

In my opinion, this is a small price to pay for the benefits that this arrangement provides. I can run not only Windows engineering programs (such as AutoCAD, but also Primavera project management software, etc.) and Unix engineering software all on the same box all at the same time. No other platform allows me to do that. The Mac is far superior to the PC or Unix (in my opinion) for general office use, photo manipulation, operation and manual development, documenting projects with movies, etc. And the fact that one need not worry about viruses and other malware on the Mac is the clincher.

Everyone works differently and therefore no solution is optimum for everyone, however, the Mac is now the perfect engineering platform for me and for many other engineers that I know.

Perhaps Apple should put some "I'm a Mac" commercials together with an engineering (or other work place specific) theme. If they were to show how with the Mac you can get the best of all platforms on one box in various real-world situations, that might speak to a lot more potential business customers.

Dave
 
Most video production is done on Macs. In my opinion not a big deal. On the other hand it's pretty sure that most Apple products are designed using CAD software in windows at some stage. ;)

Mostly TurboCad that runs on Mac and windowz and its not the first time Microsoft use Macs to do "windowz"
Anyone remember that MS used Power Mac G5's to demoed Xbox and first games where developed entirely using those mighty machines.
Hehehe
 
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