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iPad Enclosure Has Empty Space for Camera?

mcbane666 said:
Your correct, but just try photo booth with video running, and place macbook screen where the ipad would sit, and you will see what I am saying.

Either way, your holding it with your hands, which means it moves way to much.
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Good thing they wrote that code for video stabilization in iMovie. Wonder if it can do it on the fly.
 
NAG said:
Uh, the first gen has a USB port.
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No... the first gen has a "camera connection kit", which allows you to connect to a camera directly, or to an SD card.

Now, my iMac knows the difference between me plugging in a camera (using its USB cable) and plugging in a drive or any other hardware -- when I plug in a camera, it automatically cranks up iPhoto.

My guess is that the "camera connection kit" implies only that the iPad will recognize cameras -- if you plug anything else into that port, it'll just sit there, or tell you that you have an unrecognized device. In other words, no hardware and/or software support for devices with USB connectivity, even though there's a "camera connection kit" out there.

I'm not up on the USB specification, so I'm just taking a guess, but there you have it...
 
Was rewatching the SteveNote and doesn't this look like a camera hole in the exact spot this part belongs? Edit the photo lost some quality when I put it into seashore to circle that part. Here is the untouched one.
 

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Snap!

Could be one of many things...
There is definitely enough space and the bezel was carved out for a camera... that halts my purchase until next cycle if they decide to implement it.

Alternately it could be the secret implementation of the 3G iPad ;)

Dissappointed! Sorry Amex :D
 
retroneo said:
I feel certain that iPhone OS 4.0 will be released mid year. It gets unveiled in March each year.

The iPad will ship with 3.2 in March, hopefully with a camera of limited use with that release. If it ships with a camera, 4.0 will bring the videoconferencing features.
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It won't ship in March with a camera of ANY kind of use. If Apple surprised people with a camera and iPhone OS 4.0 there would be a LOT of angry developers. That I can guarantee you.

Do you know what makes a piece of software go from an major version. I.E. OSX 10.6 to 10.7 to a complete overhaul of the OS I.E. OS 3.2 to OS 4.0 ?

There is a huge difference. So big. Developers would need a lot of time to go from 3.2 to 4.0.

That is NOT going to take place in a 2 week period.

OS 4.0 will not be shown until the WWDC in June.

maybe. Might even be later.
 
well i think they did not put a camera in for the same reason as the ipod touch, cost. Apple is trying to make these products as cheap for consumers as possible and putting a camera in would just rise the cost of the device. Apple wanted the ipod touch to be 199 it would be more if there was a camera, apple wanted the ipad to be 499 it would be more with a camera.
 
Ladies and Gentlemen you have ALL missed a big one

Hasn't anyone besides Agent 001, the Auto Spy noticed that an iPad 3GS was conspicuously absent from the product grid?

iPad 3GS will have the camera.

001

:cool:
 
Quoting myself: they didn't include it because the User Experience was likely crap:

Padriac said:
Ignoring all 8 pages of off-topicness, and only a handful are getting it.

It does not lack a camera because Apple is "purposefully withholding it."
It does not lack a camera because of cost, although that is certainly a helpful factor.

1) The iPad doesn't have a back-facing camera because Apple does not want to be the company that sells the world's largest, most awkward camera.

Seriously, do you ever take pictures of people with your laptop? "Here let me take your picture! Hold on..." and then you whip out this huge, 10" slab and start aiming it at them? Ridiculous. It reminds me of sidetalking with the N-Gage: it's just ridiculously awkward.

2) There's no frontfacing camera because there is no elegant way to videoconference with something this large that can't support itself other than lying flat on a desk.

Sure, you could do this with a cell phone because it weighs nothing and can rest cradled in the palm of your hand. But do you ever really videoconference holding a laptop in your hand? No, because it's awkward. And that would still be better than an iPad because it can at least rest flat in your hand while you do it. The iPad would have to be "pinched" by your fingers as you held it up vertical. This simply is not practical. There's no way Apple could even demo this without it looking idiotic.

The only answer for videoconferencing would be some sort of stand, but that's very inelegant. Look at Steve talking about the iSight in this video. Appreciate how much time he spends crapping on even desktop mounted cameras. Of course he's not going to allow a ridiculously awkward camera experience that requires an extra stand on his product. Steve couldn't have even DEMOED the videoconferencing if they had it because he only had a couch and would have needed some sort of desk just to do it, completely missing the point of the iPad (a computer that doesn't need a lap or desk).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFG7szWEuhk

Simply put, a camera makes little sense from an interface point of view so they did not include it until they can figure out how do it right (a la copy-and-paste). And it simply might not suit a device like this, ever. Not appreciating this is why none of you work for Apple.
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AutoSpies said:
Hasn't anyone besides Agent 001, the Auto Spy noticed that an iPad 3GS was conspicuously absent from the product grid?

iPad 3GS will have the camera.

001

:cool:
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Why would the iPad 3G have a camera and the wifi version not? It's widely known that At&t cant handle video conferencing no way would they let non-contract customers bring down their network with video
 
Price Point…

Guys, it's not hard.

Apple wanted to reach a price point. iSight cameras cost several hundred dollars. To reach their $500 price point, Apple kept the iSight out. It's cheaper.

Stop crying foul. Please.
 
I don't understand the point of having a front-facing camera on the iPad for video chat. If you're pointing the camera at your crotch, how would you see the screen?




:eek:
 
mcbane666 said:
... Either way, your holding it with your hands, which means it moves way to much.
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Electronic image stabilization? Pretty old-hat now.

I didn't think I'd say this, but I'm beginning to think people might actually use videoconferencing on a portable device. Being stuck in front of a fixed desktop camera limits what you can show the caller (your new car in the driveway, the kids playing on the swing set, the baby sleeping upstairs, the snow in your front yard, that awesome sunset, etc., etc.) Without mobility, all they can see is you - and they already know what you look like! :D
 
AutoSpies said:
Hasn't anyone besides Agent 001, the Auto Spy noticed that an iPad 3GS was conspicuously absent from the product grid?

iPad 3GS will have the camera.

001

:cool:
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That would be great if there were an iPad 3G. But there isn't. It's the iPad.Period.
Two types.
One with wireless the iPad with 802.11n and one with 3G. iPad 802.11n+3G.
 
Just so long as my next iPhone has it! I’d use that more than I’d use it on an iPad.

I wonder if we’ll ever hear the story of the reasons behind the change? Lack of parts quantities? (Especially if MacBooks use the same one.) Last-minute decision based on users not liking it? (Especially if very few people got to try it until recently.)

It could be a move of pure evil, of course ;)
 
Wirelessly posted (iPhone 3GS (JB3.1, unlocked): Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7D11 Safari/528.16)

olternaut said:
Seriously, you'd have to be a moron to buy the 1.0 version of the iPad. But you just know there will be scores of dimwits sleeping outside the Apple stores the night before the iPad goes on sale.
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I'm a moron because I want an iPod touch with a larger display?
 
Eye4Desyn said:
Video conferencing isn't all bad. I would imagine most people doing so with family or friends would have the decency to use discretion when in public with this thing. I don't know, we'll see.
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This is exactly what people said when portable phones came out. How did that work out? Everyone is always so discrete when talking on the phone in public, right?
 
imalk13 said:
Guys, it's not hard.

Apple wanted to reach a price point. iSight cameras cost several hundred dollars. To reach their $500 price point, Apple kept the iSight out. It's cheaper.

Stop crying foul. Please.
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Isight may, but not the little cameras in iphones and laptops. Cant be more than 45, $10 max.
 
You Are Right Dude!

appleguy123 said:
Was rewatching the SteveNote and doesn't this look like a camera hole in the exact spot this part belongs? Edit the photo lost some quality when I put it into seashore to circle that part. Here is the untouched one.
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Alter the contrast and brightness... Bingo! There be the front facing camera hole... Try it yourself with other screen caps...
 

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