iPhone 8 Production Said to Drop Significantly Given Popularity of iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X

[Berwtmans]

This is confusing to me - why get an 8+ when you can get an X instead? The 8+ has a smaller screen and a more cumbersome form factor, lower resolution, slightly worse camera and worse contrast ratio for a similar price.

Are people just that uninformed? Or is the $200 difference that significant?

I get buying a regular 8 (though I would just get a 7 if I was trying to save money) but the 8+ seems inferior to the X in every way possible.

I waited an entire month to be able to compare iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X in person before deciding. Maybe I was expecting too much of it, but I found iPhone X not that impressive. The screen is actually significantly smaller on the X (although the diagonal is a bit larger, but the notch, rounded corners and stretched form factor are misleading here). X felt also thicker.
So it didn’t take long for me to go for the 8+. I did factor in the fact that I have two small children at home and a screen replacement on the X costs almost twice as much as an 8+ replacement
You basically get the same phone, technically. Oled and face id are nice but not worth the price difference to me.

But if you had the 6/6s/7 I can understand you want a fresh design. The above is my personal opinion but I wish all the best to all iPhone X owners ;-)

 

[peterh988]

I'd have an 8 if it had the same camera stuff as the + and the X.

As it is, to get the camera I want in the size I want I'd have to go for the X, I don't want a + sized phone. That means I'll not be buying anything right now, but i'm sure the number crunchers have accounted for people like me in their figures.

 

[MH01]

If the 8 meets their needs, so will the 7. There’s basically no difference. If you really want to save the money then go for the 7, but the price difference between the 8 and 10 is negligible for the major difference between the two devices.

I guess value is a personal choice. Glad you are really happy with urs
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If the 8 meets their needs, so will the 7. There’s basically no difference. If you really want to save the money then go for the 7, but the price difference between the 8 and 10 is negligible for the major difference between the two devices.

I guess value is a personal choice. Glad you are really happy with yours. It's a great phone

 

[curtvaughan]

Geez I hope not..... that plus X will be like
£1350 + £200 AC+ ....... £1550 for a phone.... it needs to stop

It will stop only when people stop buying phones for those prices. They're pushing what the market will bear. There will always be some who will buy expensive products, but in appealing to _only_ those people, Apple will increasingly become a "niche" manufacturer aimed at wealthy buyers.

 

[dontwalkhand]

I think everyone should have seen this coming.

With the iPhone 8 of course everyone is going to go for the Plus, this held true with 6/6s/7. Not many people bothered with the 4.7” variants of this anyway.

And for X, it’s becsuse it’s a new design.

 

[MH01]

It will stop only when people stop buying phones for those prices. They're pushing what the market will bear. There will always be some who will buy expensive products, but in appealing to _only_ those people, Apple will increasingly become a "niche" manufacturer aimed at wealthy buyers.

You are spot on. One area I'm concerned about is the pressure on youth to have to coolest device, which is an iPhone in many cases, and sure costs are spread over a plan, though those plans are around £70 a month now . I remember when the 4 came out, a device that was so far ahead of the competition , around £30sh on a plan to have the coolest .

 

[wbeasley]

Is this serious? You know the screen real estate of iPhone X is a lot smaller than 8+? You know that iPhone X is a mini phone? Longer yes, but too narrow to be even close to a phablet. In my view the iPhone X is obsolete. Too small screen these days (unless you primarily use iPad). Would even pay a few hundred dollars more for an 8+.

so can someone calculate how many square mm or inches the 8+ and the X have? (you can leave in the rounded corners and notch and we'll just call them interface regions to make things simpler). I'm guessing the 8+ probably comes up trumps?

figuring next year they will ditch something low end from the lineup. there are way to many items in the list and too little to tell them apart (and visually they casually look the same for 6, 7 and 8). It's like Apple had a lot of stock on hand or thought let's just churn a few more out with no effort. helped to pad out the price points though. $100 increments helps you get up to the wham-bam-thank-you-mam $999 model.

i keep thinking i'm due a new phone, but the size seems like a step backwards, the delay releasing it and FaceID only working for one face (at least TouchID let you store multiple fingers - yours or a friend you trusted). I guess I will keep playing with them in shops and hope it tides me over until the Xs and Xs+ come on time next September...
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I'd have an 8 if it had the same camera stuff as the + and the X.

As it is, to get the camera I want in the size I want I'd have to go for the X, I don't want a + sized phone. That means I'll not be buying anything right now, but i'm sure the number crunchers have accounted for people like me in their figures.

putting different cameras in them seems petty. you would not be alone in wanting an 8 with the same camera as the 8+ or X. there must be room in there or make the battery a bit smaller. i like the 8+ but my partner would prefer an 8 so why shouldnt they get the same ability to take better photos?

 

[-BigMac-]

I think the opposite is true. I think most people going for a “new” model (not and older one) are going to pick between the standard 8 or the X. The 8 Plus feels like a tease compared to the X especially given the how close in price they are. Weather you buy one or the other, you’re already spending over $1K. Wouldn’t you want the best thing possible for that price? I sure would. The 8 looks like a deal in comparison to the other two.

“The best thing possible” is in the eye of the beholder.

I have an 8plus. I consider that the best thing possible for this years line up.

Each person is different

 

[bambooshots]

Not so sure . The X price point and moving away from touchid is not for everyone . The iPhone 8 is a very nice unit

Just can't see people deciding to get a X over the 8 all the sudden.... it's £300 more..... that is a very large amount .

They said they're reducing it, not cutting it completely.

The 8 also remains pretty popular. 5.4 million units shipped isn't a number to scoff at.

 

[ke-iron]

Ming-Chi Kuo greatly dropped the ball with multiple reports of “iPhone X production problems” that would render the device “unavailable until February”.

No longer a reliable source.

I don’t think he means completely unavailable. I think he means wildly unavailable until February, and currently it’s still widely unavailable.

 

[TallManNY]

As they should. Wouldn’t make sense for it be have the same production level as something much higher in demand.

Honestly if you’re in the market for the 8 save yourself the extra $120 and get a 7 instead. The differences are basically nonexistent.

Huh? The 8 is much better. Why use a worse phone for the next two years to save twenty cents a day? Actually you save less than that when you take into account resale value.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Makes total sense to me the X is the next gen "small screen" flagship iPhone. The 8 (not the 8+, specifically talking about the 4.7" here) is really in no man's lands -- it's not really high end like the X and it's not well priced like the 7. So really, who is it for? I'd say it's a placeholder for next year's "value" phone. But it's probably the last of it's kind, i.e, 4.7" LED iPhone.

I can 100% see -- and thought it would happen because people are lazy and don't understand the dimensions on Apple's web site -- that plus users might be disappointed with the X. But it's not really for them. Their phone comes next year. The X is for the 4.7" users that always felt left out of the bigger screen and better camera options because the footprint of the plus was too impractical for them.

So it seems quite realistic the 4.7" 8 isn't selling well. It's not really aimed at a large customer base.

 

[matrix07]

I can 100% see -- and thought it would happen because people are lazy and don't understand the dimensions on Apple's web site -- that plus users might be disappointed with the X. But it's not really for them. Their phone comes next year. The X is for the 4.7" users that always felt left out of the bigger screen and better camera options because the footprint of the plus was too impractical for them.

So it seems quite realistic the 4.7" 8 isn't selling well. It's not really aimed at a large customer base.

Think you’ve nailed it. Bigger screen in managable size & better camera is what the regular iPhone is lacking. X answers both of these & more. No brainer really.

 

[Iphilix]

Not so sure . The X price point and moving away from touchid is not for everyone . The iPhone 8 is a very nice unit

Just can't see people deciding to get a X over the 8 all the sudden.... it's £300 more..... that is a very large amount .

You would be surprised. I went from an iPhone 7 Plus to an iPhone x and I couldn’t be happier. The screen is relatively the same size but the phone in general is a lot smaller. I would definitely go for the plus model in the iPhone X style for sure but I still love my phone.
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Think you’ve nailed it. Bigger screen in managable size & better camera is what the regular iPhone is lacking. X answers both of these & more. No brainer really.

I don’t really think that all that true. I don’t really notice that much of a screen size difference tween my 7 plus’s and 10. At the same time I really enjoyed the 10 over the pluss models a lot. I feel like I have a plus model but the bezels are mostly taken away is the impression I get from using the ten. I definitely would like a bigger screen still considering we now can have a phone the size of the plus model that is all screens would be awesome

 

[code-m]

I'd have an 8 if it had the same camera stuff as the + and the X.

As it is, to get the camera I want in the size I want I'd have to go for the X, I don't want a + sized phone. That means I'll not be buying anything right now, but i'm sure the number crunchers have accounted for people like me in their figures.

Your sentiment is aligned with mine relating to this comparison.

I usually upgrade every year, I had the 6plus for the OIS, 6Splus for the OIS, 7 for the OIS as it finally got it, however also would have preferred the dual cameras. With the 8, there was no dual cameras, I did not like the physical size of the plus, so I went with the X as it had the best of both worlds.

If the regular 8, had the dual cameras of the plus or even the X, model I would have purchased it instead.

There is faulty logic used in this article, not comparing feature for feature.

If the dual camera is made available on the 4.7” screen next year, I may get that instead.

Apple has way too many display sizes on the market, their are starting to follow android handset producers confusing product lines. Smh

 

[Iphilix]

Apple should release only two phones next year.

The XI (Same dimensions of the Current X)
The XI Plus (Full OLED Screen of the current Plus size)

Make the XI cheaper than the current X and the XI Plus the same price as the current X. I dont believe they should go any higher than the current X price anytime soon. But its Apple. Who knows.

I think that is the timer I heard. Plus model of the x and the x both like a s model though and a model with less zoo zoos and wam wams with will make it affordable. I don’t know what they would cut out. Though. Maybe the oiled panel but then is there bendable lcd screens that are not oled.

 

[aneftp]

I think everyone should have seen this coming.

With the iPhone 8 of course everyone is going to go for the Plus, this held true with 6/6s/7. Not many people bothered with the 4.7” variants of this anyway.

And for X, it’s becsuse it’s a new design.

Incorrect. The 4.7 iPhones have always outsold their 5.5 inch iPhones by a 2:1 margin easily.

Being $100 base price cheaper makes a difference. Just like
The base 16gb models always was the most popular due to low base price.

But for 2017. 5.5 inch iPhone 8 Plus is outselling the 4.7 iPhone 8 and now the iPhone X outsells the iPhone 8 4.7 inch as well

The 4.7 inch iPhone 8 doesn’t offer much for iPhone 6/6s/7 4.7 upgrades.

 

[lazyrighteye]

Sorry you’re not having the same experience I’m having. Nothing but pleasure .

Agree.
Face ID is laughably smooth. Virtually invisible. Works so well, I wasn’t sure it was working. Seriously... any apprehension around Face ID, aside from those in the tin-foil hats (respect), can be put to bed. Touch ID now seems so antiquated. Seems so 1990.

 

[one more]

Not surprised. People who used to upgrade to every new iPhone released might have gone with an X. Others, who just needed to replace their iPhone, have lots of other options, like SE, 6S & 7. iPhone 8 was released as a gap-phone (albeit an expensive one), while waiting to ramp-up X production.

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

Not so sure . The X price point and moving away from touchid is not for everyone . The iPhone 8 is a very nice unit

Just can't see people deciding to get a X over the 8 all the sudden.... it's £300 more..... that is a very large amount .

First off as an X user i can say i don’t miss Touch ID in the slightest. Face ID is way superior imo. Secondly we are talking about a few bucks more a month for payment on the X over the 8. When it comes down to it. You pay $3-4 dollars more for a superior product is a no brained.

 

[Bethanie21]

Once X was released without compromises, the 8 and any 4.7" model became irrelevant.

Not really ‘irrelevant’, I have an 8 and love it. I wasn’t willing to give Apple £1000 for the X, it’s not worth that to me, and the Plus is too large for my hands.

 

[npmacuser5]

Seems like the pluses have been gaining in popularity each cycle. The standard phone has become more niche. Moving forward I wonder if they'll even have size choices or if everything will just be X type large screen with standard size housing.

Cost maybe driving this trend. Not everyone needs or can justify the cost of a phone, tablet, and laptop. For many, a large phone can replace the tablet and possibly the laptop also. Especially if a large percentage of your phone, tablet, laptop, needs are media consumption or possibly less intensive business applications not requiring a large screen. The trend in tablet sales maybe an indicator of this trend.

 

[Bethanie21]

Face ID works better than touch. And that £300 is about £4 extra on your contract. People don’t look at the over all cost they see £65, £69, or £72 a month for example.

I don’t purchase a contract with my phones, just buy them outright and pay £12 a month for my data, minutes etc., so I look at the overall cost when purchasing and to me it makes a big difference.

Also, most are reporting that FaceID and TouchID are on par. Some actually say TouchID is quicker.

 

[bnmcj1]

Agree.
Face ID is laughably smooth. Virtually invisible. Works so well, I wasn’t sure it was working. Seriously... any apprehension around Face ID, aside from those in the tin-foil hats (respect), can be put to bed. Touch ID now seems so antiquated. Seems so 1990.

Face ID may work, but wooot it is slow. Could not live with it. Seems like 1990.

 

[FelixDerKater]

I do miss the wider screen of the 7 Plus, but not enough to downgrade.