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iPhone X Design Outdated
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inscrewtable
macrumors 68000
This is a bit of an obtuse example however the way that Apple have framed the screen rather than take the glass to the edge reminds of the way that classy car makers do not try and disguise the steel window frames. Sure it's a matter of taste but the way that Apple have done the iPhone X is pure class, and Ive knows it. Whereas the Galaxy Note 8 reminds me of a kitsch 1970's smoked glass coffee table.
Oliveira46
macrumors member
The gaming problem is solved very easy if developers add fake bezels in software. But I bet you that give the choice of most consumers would prefer the bezeless videogame version if given the choice.
The "smashing" problem would be the same, because It's not the screen that shatters it's the glass. Your point would only be valid they they made the bezels out of something that wasn't glass. If you crack the bezel's glass, you crack the glass's screen too
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How do you use your phone in the pocket?!
I'm going to assume that if someone's calling me, or I'm listening to music i'm literaly using the phone in my pocket 🙂
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x-evil-x
macrumors 603
There is nothing wrong with a tempered black glass coffee table. Beats wood and many other materials imo. Design sense is in the eye of the beholder.
Some people love wood furniture and some like more clean modern/contemporary design
Aleh
macrumors regular
"Galaxy S8 and Note 8 don't have side bezels!"
??????
What do you call those? And on top of that, they have distorted edges. They sure look nice in renders where they can artificially hide them I guess.
They also have big bottom bezels still.
And let's not even talk about the back of the Note 8 with its unsightly big uni-brow camera.
??????
What do you call those? And on top of that, they have distorted edges. They sure look nice in renders where they can artificially hide them I guess.
They also have big bottom bezels still.
And let's not even talk about the back of the Note 8 with its unsightly big uni-brow camera.
akash.nu
macrumors G4
So you don’t ever use the phone for anything else other than listening to music & answering phone calls while it rests in your pocket?! Wow
that’s some next level edge use case.I really dislike the stuckup attitude in this thread that because OP dislikes something Apple did, people feel this isn't worth discussing or "entertaining."
OP, I agree with you. The X seems chunky, the side bezels look too large, and the design all around looks kinda weird to me. I think it'll look better in person, as the leaked photos all make it look really good. It looks like the front of the phone is just covered with a piece of paper over it, but it's the screen.
But I will agree, purely from marketing photos, the S8/+/Note look way better. And I did feel disappointed seeing that the iPhone X doesn't look as good as an Android competitor, because I want the iPhone to have the design since I have no desire to switch to Android.
OP, I agree with you. The X seems chunky, the side bezels look too large, and the design all around looks kinda weird to me. I think it'll look better in person, as the leaked photos all make it look really good. It looks like the front of the phone is just covered with a piece of paper over it, but it's the screen.
But I will agree, purely from marketing photos, the S8/+/Note look way better. And I did feel disappointed seeing that the iPhone X doesn't look as good as an Android competitor, because I want the iPhone to have the design since I have no desire to switch to Android.
roeiz
macrumors 65816
Phone Junky
macrumors 68030
flat five
macrumors 603
for clarity, the X frame is polished stainless steel.. not chrome.
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the edge bezel is considerably thinner on the X if looking at that picture in the link.
what do you think a bezel is?
further.. i believe the bezel that is present on the X is an aesthetic decision.. not some sort of technical hurdle they were unable to overcome.. they likely could of put the display right up to the frame but didn't as it wouldn't look as sweet. (imo)
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Chupa Chupa
macrumors G5
I don't see that example as on point. I know BMW regularly switches off between black and chrome trim at the windows as standard equipment. The unused option is either not available or offered as an extra cost option. The exception is that M cars always have black trim. It has zero to do with "class," and everything to do with how sporty BMW wants the car to feel. In recent history BMW has used chrome trim for the "luxury" option and black for the "sport" option.
OTOH Apple's use of the dog ears is a design compromise, one that it surely will fix in future models as technology improves.
flat five
macrumors 603
maybe it's the thread title.. OP states the design is outdated then goes on to give zero points regarding antiquated design..
so, a little hard to seriously debate as valid points are lacking.
if the reasoning you see is pretentiousness / stuck up / snob.. then so be it.
jnog88
macrumors newbie
Design is subjective. The S8 is a stunning phone in my opinion as is the iPhone X. Neither of them is state of the art. However, they are the same phones we've had for 10 years, now with screens closer to the edge.
If you want state of the art design, we are talking a radical rethinking of the smartphone. At the end of the day, all current smartphones are slabs of glass, metal, and plastic.
I do think the notch is not the prettiest, but I do like that it makes the phone more easily identifiable and if I wanted to make sure my brand was noticed in a see of black glass, it's not the worst way to do it, in my opinion of course, especially when "innovation" in smartphone design has slowed to a crawl for the most part, in my opinion 😉
KingslayerG5
Suspended
Nearly three weeks ago, I sold my Google Pixel which was in mint condition for Craigslist. The following morning, my titanium silver S7 edge was sold.
Out of the two phones, the uglier and outdated-looking Pixel is the one I miss more. S7 edge was the sexier device with water-resistance, microSD slot, came with a free Gear VR headset. Camera was also better especially its dynamic range although I didn't like the yellowish tint indoors.
On paper, S7e is the better deal. Guess what? I hated curved displays when I used to think how futuristic and beautiful it was. Curved displays felt gimmicky like its Gear VR or movies in 3D. I hated how laggy I got it whether on MM or N. It didn't start to get smoother until the last security fix update.
The Pixel was a non-flashy phone that got **** done and did them well. If you prefer fluid UI experience, Pixels are the one to get. Even my fast iPhone SE on iOS10 isn't quite as fast or responsive because the animations takes too long. It's like the homely girl winning my heart for a wife over the sexy, superficial one and stutters or says "like" or "whatever" alot.
Design is just design. You will get bored with any design after awhile. Samsung has milked the same curved displays for three years now. Whatever works better for me is what matters more. Looks fade. Performance lasts. About 130M users will get over this "outdated" design of the X in less than two years.
You will realize nobody cares what phone you have or what it looks like. They're too busy checking their's. I miss that og but ugly af Pixel but I will wait if I can find a good promo deal on the Pixel 2 XL or V30 in a few months or just keep my Magnificent Seven and not buy another phone until the next decade.
Keep checking Slickdeals or before Black Friday for any good deals on the V30 or Pixel 2 XL though. You won't find them with iPhones for under $200 unless for the SE or 6 under prepaid plans.
Out of the two phones, the uglier and outdated-looking Pixel is the one I miss more. S7 edge was the sexier device with water-resistance, microSD slot, came with a free Gear VR headset. Camera was also better especially its dynamic range although I didn't like the yellowish tint indoors.
On paper, S7e is the better deal. Guess what? I hated curved displays when I used to think how futuristic and beautiful it was. Curved displays felt gimmicky like its Gear VR or movies in 3D. I hated how laggy I got it whether on MM or N. It didn't start to get smoother until the last security fix update.
The Pixel was a non-flashy phone that got **** done and did them well. If you prefer fluid UI experience, Pixels are the one to get. Even my fast iPhone SE on iOS10 isn't quite as fast or responsive because the animations takes too long. It's like the homely girl winning my heart for a wife over the sexy, superficial one and stutters or says "like" or "whatever" alot.
Design is just design. You will get bored with any design after awhile. Samsung has milked the same curved displays for three years now. Whatever works better for me is what matters more. Looks fade. Performance lasts. About 130M users will get over this "outdated" design of the X in less than two years.
You will realize nobody cares what phone you have or what it looks like. They're too busy checking their's. I miss that og but ugly af Pixel but I will wait if I can find a good promo deal on the Pixel 2 XL or V30 in a few months or just keep my Magnificent Seven and not buy another phone until the next decade.
Keep checking Slickdeals or before Black Friday for any good deals on the V30 or Pixel 2 XL though. You won't find them with iPhones for under $200 unless for the SE or 6 under prepaid plans.
What did you EXPECT him to say???
"Uhhh, we really wanted to use Touch ID, but we couldn't figure out how to make it work under the screen in time to launch it this year so we're giving you the only alternative we could get to work in such a short time: Face ID"???
Of COURSE they are going to try and hype Face ID. They'd be idiotic not to. It's the security feature they had to use on their flagship phone.
And yes, they "had to". They didn't "want to" no matter how badly Mr. "I lost my ability to design somewhere around October of 2011" Ive wants to try and sell it. They wanted to integrate Touch ID under the OLED screen. That would have been cutting edge. That was (documented) what they wanted to do.
They failed.
Face ID will be fine, but the rhetoric that it was always their first choice is patently silly. Would you rather have Face ID (and all of it's potential issues, even if none of them come to pass) or Touch ID integrated under the screen? Taking up NONE of your front real estate and using technology that has been rock solid for years...
Anyone that says Face ID is being dishonest. It will work, and it'll probably be just as convenient, but it was a "last resort" and absolutely is the consolation prize we got so they could get the X to market this year.
ray6712
macrumors 6502
Well honestly if this was their last resort they did a damn fine job, if face I’d works as great as it seems it will then Apple truly will have innovated past all others attempts in a very short period of time.
Touch ID under the screen may have imposed limitations other than the technical difficulties we believe exist. Why don’t we give tech a chance before we knock it.
The word innovation really has become a catch phrase anyone who does something uses the HELL out of it, big screen that’s innovation nfc innovation but yet when Apple comes with something that actually does a lot more than we imagined then their copying I just don’t get it.
DNichter
macrumors G3
Yup, those top and bottom chins on the 8 and 8 plus look pretty much the same as the X.
virginblue4
macrumors 68020
So you're basing everything on your opinion and unverified reports but when Apple come and out say this was in the works for years, you don't believe them? Very odd. This level of technology certainly wasn't a last minute resort.
In term of taking up 'NONE of your front real estate', where would the front facing camera and earpiece go then?
KingslayerG5
Suspended
Terms like "outdated" is only to promote planned obsolescence.
Two of my favorite products ever is the iPhone SE and MacBook Air. Like Juan Carlos Bagnell has said other than "megapickles" is that iOS was originally built for SMALLER screens and used one-handed like from 2007-2012.
iOS doesn't offer an app drawer. Has no launcher to rearrange the grid, change the icon size and fonts, and no ability to hide apps. On my Pixel and S7e, my homescreen had apps only in the dock. I could put a huge photo on the page that won't be obscured.
I kinda don't want the X because how I arrange my homescreen has always been 4x4 (16 apps) with 4 in the dock. Space to swipe my finger to the left or right. There would be a huge space there with a taller screen. I'm just so used to the og iPhone layout.
My MBA is the greatest computer I ever had. Both SE and MBA are cheap, fast, reliable, long battery life, all the ports I need. Not one major issue from either one and no dongles required. Both look stylish too. If I ever wanted a MacBook Pro, it would be the Retina fron 2015. If I wanted Apple Watch, it would be Series 2 because I don't need LTE or a $10 additional plan.
Oldie but still a goodie. I like the oldies.
Just because its newer doesn't mean it's better. Just because it's "outdated" doesn't mean it's bad. We saw that in 2013-2014 with the bad designs known as iOS7 and iPhone 6 / 6 Plus rears that proved newer isn't better.
Two of my favorite products ever is the iPhone SE and MacBook Air. Like Juan Carlos Bagnell has said other than "megapickles" is that iOS was originally built for SMALLER screens and used one-handed like from 2007-2012.
iOS doesn't offer an app drawer. Has no launcher to rearrange the grid, change the icon size and fonts, and no ability to hide apps. On my Pixel and S7e, my homescreen had apps only in the dock. I could put a huge photo on the page that won't be obscured.
I kinda don't want the X because how I arrange my homescreen has always been 4x4 (16 apps) with 4 in the dock. Space to swipe my finger to the left or right. There would be a huge space there with a taller screen. I'm just so used to the og iPhone layout.
My MBA is the greatest computer I ever had. Both SE and MBA are cheap, fast, reliable, long battery life, all the ports I need. Not one major issue from either one and no dongles required. Both look stylish too. If I ever wanted a MacBook Pro, it would be the Retina fron 2015. If I wanted Apple Watch, it would be Series 2 because I don't need LTE or a $10 additional plan.
Oldie but still a goodie. I like the oldies.
Just because its newer doesn't mean it's better. Just because it's "outdated" doesn't mean it's bad. We saw that in 2013-2014 with the bad designs known as iOS7 and iPhone 6 / 6 Plus rears that proved newer isn't better.