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KGI: 6.1-Inch iPhone to Have Single-Lens Rear Camera, Aluminum Frame, 3GB RAM, and No 3D Touch, Cost $700-$800

Rhartford said:
Costly, sure. And here I thought there was a reason we pay a premium for Apple phones..
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The definition of "premium" has shifted to $999 and up. As smartphones become more mature, there is less reason for consumers to upgrade. Shipment volumes are expected to decline and replacement cycles are longer. To make up for it, Apple needs to raise ASPs.
 
I fear the day I have to replace my 6S Plus.

Si far is working perfectly fine but one day it will need a new home.

I have skipped the 7 and last year’s lineup because every year Apple removes something. I have 3 pairs of Bluetooth earphones, mostly for sports,but I still need the wire a great deal of times. I have considered going back to typing the password not to use faceid... who knows!

3D Touch is not mandatory but why removing it? You get what in return? A lower price? a bit of BS illusion? And 3D touching the keyboard to place the cursor is fantastic.

I have considered Android but can’t find one that makes no compromises, except perhaps the LG V30. But then it will probably get no OS updates after 2018, if lucky.

It’s not about the price. It’s about feeling like you get less as time goes by except a bit of more speed and better resolution that anyway my old eyes won’t notice.

Oh well...
 
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WannaGoMac said:
I just got force touch and i find it incredibly annoying and mostly pointless. Trying to do a long press vs force press is just too close so I keep getting the wrong action. As for technically challenged users, force touch is one of the first things I turn off on their iPhones as it just confuses them.

Apple keeps going down a path that is making the interface less friendly to non-technically comfortable users. While I like the gestures and can deal with Force Touch, the idea of teaching them to geriatric aged people is a huge NO WAY. Heck last week I had one person having trouble using touch ID, they kept pressing the button too hard when trying to scan their finger.

I am already concerned what i will do for my technically challenged friends once Apple completely ditches the buttons this year. I guess I will have to find an Android Distro for them...
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If you think Android will be a better option for technically challenged folks, you are in for a big surprise.

FaceID is probably a better option for the reason you stated above; there's no clicking or pushing required. Just look at the screen. I'm sure teaching someone to swipe up isn't that hard.
 
I do think there will be three new models this year. It feels logical for the iPhone X to no longer be that special ten year anniversary edition and instead blend into the regular line-up.

And Apple already did a awkward thing with not having a iPhone X Plus as their biggest market (China/Asia) has a clear trend towards larger phones. Sales in China/Asia is somewhat disappointing compared to the rest of the world when it comes to the iPhone X as costumers in China/Asia is still trending towards the iPhone 7 Plus and iPhone 8 Plus.

So a new Plus-size iPhone X seems obvious. But they'll get rid of the X-branding and just call them whatever. We will have a regular size one and a plus-sized one with pretty much identical specifications besides battery size and screen size+resolution.

And I would expect Apple to keep a lower priced model like the SE, just with a design more in line with the iPhone 6-8 series, glass back and 3D Touch just to make all phones have feature parity. It seems awkward to push for wireless charging, having the new Apple AirPower charger coming up etc.. And not ensure that all 2018 models will actually support it. And no 3D Touch won't make much sense, it can't be all that expensive to include and it will give feature parity so all developers can count on all newer iPhone's to actually support it so we don't have this awkward lower priced phone that will never see the 3D Touch menus and navigation options.
 
barkomatic said:
Sounds like a cheapened replacement that will cause confusion as to which model is the "flagship" against which other flagships are compared.

I can easily see people claiming this is the flagship since it would be new model and has a bigger screen. That's just the way some tend to think.
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$800 sounds like a flagship to me, unless you're a greedy fruit company
 
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nviz22 said:
KGI has no clue about the 2018 iPhones. Why would Apple take out something it spent so much time developing software for?

If Apple releases a gimped entry model, I’ll go elsewhere. Rather deal with Google’s Pixel or the Galaxy because I know I’ll get more hardware for my $.
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Touch ID says hello.
 
I don't think this rumor is correct. It shouldn't cost Apple anything to include 3D Touch.
 
JPack said:
That makes no sense.

Without 4 wheels, the car doesn't move.

Without 3D Touch, the phone works perfectly.
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ok take it with windshield than.. you get the ideea...apple is moving back in time with this so called " no 3d touch"
 
It seems like a pretty deliberate attempt to cut features to differentiate this device from the X. Single lens camera? 1 GB less memory? What's next, using the A11 processor for another year while the X and X Plus get an A12? These prices are flagship territory and Apple is skimping on components that would add a minimal amount of cost.
 
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RE "Note: KGI's image has a slight error. iPhone 8 Plus has 3GB of RAM."


That was very-likely intentional ... Kuo is mostly a Puppet of Apple's Upper Mgmt team, and Apple uses Kuo to try to UP-sell products and/or paint a pretty picture of whatever the current mess is ... Kuo's table will very-likely spread Wide & Far today (on the net), and most of the authors of his update today (on other sites) probably won't catch or spell-out the mistake in the table ... it's good to see MacRumors do so !

BTW, if Apple had put 3 GB into the iPhone 8, AND 4 GB into the 8+, neither would have flopped like they did ... the extra DRAM makes a world of difference in what advanced apps can do with either mobile device, and would have put them in the same position that the Sept 2018 iPhones will ultimately be, AND at a much, much lower cost to Users !

Now, if Apple would only start using Kuo to promote 10-bit extended color spaces (e.g., Display P3) capture, then Apple would really be leveraging his position (in the industry) to the Max ... for those of you who have difficulty reading between the lines, Apple didn't put new image sensors into the iPhone 8, 8+ and X just so that could offer DEEPER "deep trench isolation" ... it was very-likely to add support for 10-bit Display P3 capture ! ... which they haven't yet Enabled ... AND which hasn't been "leaked" by anyone (yet) ... I expect that to change in the next few months !

 
fokmik said:
ok take it with windshield than.. you get the ideea...apple is moving back in time with this so called " no 3d touch"
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Apple advertises iPhone 8 as having 3D Touch on their product overview page. Apple doesn't advertise 3D Touch on iPhone X.

When you have a set of really innovative and visible features like Face ID and thin-bezel, you don't need 3D Touch. This is especially true if hardly anyone uses 3D Touch.
 
JPack said:
Apple advertises iPhone 8 as having 3D Touch on their product overview page. Apple doesn't advertise 3D Touch on iPhone X.

When you have a set of really innovative and visible features like Face ID and thin-bezel, you don't need 3D Touch. This is especially true if hardly anyone uses 3D Touch.
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we all use it EVERYDAY thanks to its taptic engine, vibration motor...or everyone use it when you want to correct something by 3d touch on text and move the cursor so easily and so on. FaceID take the page because IT IS A brand new technology for Apple
 
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These rumors are getting more ridiculous. Reminds me of when Gene Munster was speculating that the 5C wouldn’t have a camera or support Siri.
 
78Bandit said:
It seems like a pretty deliberate attempt to cut features to differentiate this device from the X. Single lens camera? 1 GB less memory? What's next, using the A11 processor for another year while the X and X Plus get an A12? These prices are flagship territory and Apple is skimping on components that would add a minimal amount of cost.
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Remember those articles about Apple having a 2.5 year lead over Android because of TrueDepth camera?

Yes, it's a deliberate attempt by Apple to cut features. It would be silly for Apple to not capitalize on their new technology and give it away for $799 without compromising other features.
 
magicschoolbus said:
3D Touch has been implemented system wide in iOS at this point; removing the feature makes the the OS more difficult to navigate. Can't believe apple which prides itself on software and hardware meshing would do such a thing
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This is strange indeed. For me if they don’t include 3D Touch it’s an admission the feature is a failure. Not having it on th iPad already is a problem.
 
JPack said:
Ming-Chi Kuo is the one that told the world iPhone X would rely on Face ID alone. And Apple would ditch Touch ID.

Those of you who doubted him last year looked pretty silly.

Feel free to doubt him about 3D Touch, but prepared to look dumb in September.
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It makes no sense because phones currently in the lineup cheaper than this rumored phone have Taptic Engine and 3D Touch. Nothing about this device makes any sense. Of course analysts got hardly anything right about the 5C. My guess is this situation is similar. Here a rumor about some bigger screen cheaper priced phone and start speculating on what Apple could do to make it cheaper and turn that into a rumor.
 
ConfusedChris said:
Definitely weird, if correct.

(I like your signature. How many iPhone Xs would it take to fill the Albert Hall?)
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:D First time someone said something about it here.

I'd use that weird 6.1 inch iPhone to fill all holes in Blackburn Lancaster anyway.
 
iPhone 6.1" will have LCD with 120hz promotion technology, 3d touch, 32/64/128 storage/display 326ppi
 
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