Latest Renders of 2019 iPhone Show Camera Bump Integrated Into Rear Glass

[Justanotherfanboy]

I've seen several posters coming up with similar theories to justify that camera square. None of those theories seemed to have any verifiable science behind them. Not any that I can find anyway. Where are you guys getting these theories? To be fair, you may be 100% right. It just doesn't seem to be valid because multiple OEM's are doing computational photography without that lens configuration. Heck Apple is doing computational photography without that lens configuration.

http://lightfield-forum.com/wordpre.../linx-array-camera-modules-multi-aperture.jpg

When Apple bought Linx in 2015, for their camera array tech, they kinda showed their hand in what future phone camera setups would look like.

 

[falainber]

OMFG!!! Do you ppl ever get tired of complaining about the battery size!!! I mean by now, it truly goes w/o actually saying it!!! It’s a given!!! Every year, the same old tired comments!!!

Do you ever get tired of complaining about people complaining? I mean by now, you should have realized people do complain about the things they don't like.

 

[citysnaps]

OMFG!!! Do you ppl ever get tired of complaining about the battery size!!! I mean by now, it truly goes w/o actually saying it!!! It’s a given!!! Every year, the same old tired comments!!!

It’s a favorite of the moan-n-whine crowd who need a little blip of power in their lives in order to feel good.

 

[realtuner]

RE: "With the exception of the camera design, no other design or display changes are expected."

I think the XR will be bumped-up from "pseudo" 3 GB to "pseudo" 4 GB.

For comparison purposes, the 7+ is a "true" 3 GB device !

Plus, AAPL better fix the Perf Controller bug(s) in the A12, OR ... major Recall at some point !!!

They still need to deal with the existing A12 units that have the bug(s).

You’re STILL posting this lie?

 

[iReality85]

Ugh, I was really hoping for iPad Pro-like redesign

If Apple used the iPad Pro's design cues for the iPhone that would be amazing. FLAT EDGES, PLEASE.

Geez. Just make the phone a tiny bit thicker and lose the bump. Added bonus: more room for battery!

It's just ridiculous, isn't it? They're trying to design around a camera bump that's what, like 1mm thick? Just increase the thickness of the phone by a millimeter and call it a day. No one will notice.

 

[trigf]

Ugh, I was really hoping for iPad Pro-like redesign

I think you'll be in luck. That iPhone 4 "slate" style that the iPad Pro has is widely expected to be the final design of at least one 2019 iPhone. I think this rendering was just showing off the camera alignment.

 

[cmaier]

Plus, AAPL better fix the Perf Controller bug(s) in the A12, OR ... major Recall at some point !!!

They still need to deal with the existing A12 units that have the bug(s).

Are you a short seller or something? Why do you keep trying to spread this lie?

 

[Tjosansa]

I want a THINNER phone. That is light.
Like iPhone 6.

 

[NufSaid]

I am the only one that is far less concerned about the bump since it doesn't matter what shape it is because the shape of my phone is the shape of my case.

This bump this and bump that and notch this and notch that is a way to talk about nothing. At least they will work longer than a couple days (Samsung #FoldingPhoneGate)

 

[iReality85]

I have an insight: it’s not going to be named XI. They’ll be named 11, 11 Max, 11R.

What's wrong with iPhone XIR? It's so gender neutral!

 

[cmChimera]

However, people still fell for the wow/cool factor, so if you really feel strongly about it, vote with your wallet.

People didn't "Fall" for anything. They liked what Apple put out and bought it. This forum is not representative of anything. All these posts complaining about a camera bump are insignificant compared to the number of people that don't care or think it looks fine/good.

 

[Remy149]

Ugh, I was really hoping for iPad Pro-like redesign

Not me those squared corners would be awfully uncomfortable on these large phones the iPad is a 2 handed device
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I would, as it would make the thing extremely thick when in a case. That has always been the advantage of the camera bump -- it doesn't increase the phone's thickness when used in a case, as most people do.

That said, I hate this square tumor design. Assuming the final phone resembles the render, it might be the second ugliest product Apple ever made.

Exactly the camera bump disappears the moment my phone is in a case

 

[iReality85]

Not me those squared corners would be awfully uncomfortable on these large phones the iPad is a 2 handed device

What square corners???

 

[JetTester]

But does the phone work????? All the hoopla is about the added features like the camera. I'd like to see better reception in the next model.

 

[gaximus]

I remember when we were young, innocent, and complaining about the iPhone 6's camera bump…

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In a few years the entire back will be one giant camera bump, and we'll never have to worry about wobble again, or they could just put a camera in each corner

 

[bladerunner2000]

Geez. Just make the phone a tiny bit thicker and lose the bump. Added bonus: more room for battery!

Apple has a history of doing things that are NOT practical.

Forget about it.

 

[19SK91]

Well just as R coming first before S didn’t mean R was better, 11R vs 11 wouldn’t really imply the 11R was better. In the past they had the 5 and 5c, and the 5c was less expensive. In any case, no one goes by model names to try to guess which is better, do they? The pricing tells the story.

Obviously R coming before S doesn‘t mean R is better. It comes before S. Higher = better. And 5 and 5C weren‘t sold at the same time. 5C replaced the 5 and was sold alongside the 5S, so again: 5C & 5S, higher = better.

 

[mscice]

sorry but looks like **** ... no point in upgrading!

 

[Remy149]

Apple will become aware only if the sales nosedive; for example, if people refused to buy X when it came out due to its high price and/or notch, sticking with iPhones 7-8 instead. However, people still fell for the wow/cool factor, so if you really feel strongly about it, vote with your wallet.

There is a good Guardian article on what’s possible in a 2019 phone tech-design wise. These guys are quite unbiased, with a sober take on modern iPhones:

https://www.theguardian.com/technol...awei-ios-android-buyers-guide-compared-ranked

People didn’t fall for anything or was tricked. Many of us are very happy with our phones you must be one of those folks that can’t understand opinions that differ from your own
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What square corners???

I meant square edges the rounded edges of the current iPhones make them more comfortable in your palm. I use a Xs Max and can do almost everything one handed

 

[69Mustang]

Its simple physics. If I want to overlay signals from multiple sensors, the sensors should be receiving the same image.

The farther apart the lenses, the less similar the sensor images are.

Other vendors may not be using all three lenses - you can put them in a line if you want, and then only combine signals from nearest neighbors. If you want to combine signals from all three sensors, you want every pair to be close together.

Forgive me, but that doesn't sound like simple physics. It sounds like you postulating. Admittedly, I am out of my depth when discussing photography, especially computational photography. But even my cursory googling of computational photography throws doubt on your theory. In fact there are so many elements involved, it's a bit overwhelming, but consistently, none of that info supports your assertions. I'm not casting aspersions, I'm genuinely curious. I'd like to know some actual facts... so that I can steal them at a later point in time and claim them as my own. Most of what I've seen thus far seem to be based on IFTTT logic. As in, this is what I think because of this, then that must also be true.

With all these companies including all these camera's in all these different configurations... let's just say I have doubts that Huawei stumbled upon a superior solution with the squircle config.

 

[cmChimera]

What square corners???

These ones....

 

[douglasf13]

it's a phone for crying out loud. it will never match a dslr, so maybe focusing on the battery and some other features that are lacking, might be a good idea.

Sure, but it's about the balance of quality vs. convenience. That's how 35mm film started in the first place, as it was "good enough" for most people who didn't want to lug around medium or large format cameras. I don't think many medium format digital users complain about DSLR progress, despite it not equalling medium format digital.

Phone tech has reached a plateau, for the most part, so camera improvements make sense.

 

[SSDGUY]

Everyone is going to call this ugly and buy it anyway. Just like you did with the iPhone 5's ugly glass panels, the iPhone 6's ugly antenna lines, and the iPhone X's ugly notch.

If one wants a new ios phone ya really got no choice. I personally could care less about a notch, camera bump, etc. It's the removal of the analog headphone jack (to save space?) for using with my wired IE monitors that pissed me off. Call me a caveman but I also like some amount of bezel for a grip-helping case to wrap over.

 

[Classie]

I think that the integrated bump will look good and something that haven’t been done before. This is what Ive and his team loves to do; finding new ways to produce things.
Can’t wait to see it and here Ive tell me about the steps that made this possible - I genuinely love this stuff!!

 

[jarman92]

This whole three-camera setup seems ridiculous to me. The only reason Apple switched from the horizontal camera setup to a vertical one is because they couldn't fit cameras behind the FaceID system...how is this monstrosity going to fit?