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I'm more interested in seeing some renders of that rumored 5.3" or 5.4" model or whatever it was, but I bet it will be like a smaller XR.
 
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All I care about is seeing with this technology can produce and what it’s capable of come this fall. I have _zero_ interest about worrying about the aesthetics of the back of my iPhone, When it will be in a case anyways. I say lets see what what the triple lens camera can offer.
 
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Do whatever the heck you want to to the camera. I don't mind the square bump, if it means new camera features and higher quality. Will use a case anyway. BUT IF YOU DON'T REDUCE THE NOTCH AND KEEP THE FRONT DESIGN AS IS, I'M GONNA BE EXTREMELY PISSED!!
 
Everyone goes on and on about no reason to upgrade every year, but this takes the cake. If they keep this same exact design, notch, triple camera, it's an S model on an S model. That's bold.
How so? It's not like there isn't precedent. The iPhone 6 / 6S / 7 / 8 are all using the same basic hardware design differentiated by only spec updates. Apple is essentially on a 3-year design cycle with all of their major product lines.
 
What methodology did you use to conduct that study? Please share the results. I am sure you're far better and more experiencee at market research than Apple.

I clearly said "I think" and never claimed to be "far better" or "more experienced" at market research. Still doesn‘t mean Apple is perfect at it, otherwise there wouldn‘t be the trash can Mac Pro for example. Also don‘t know why you‘re being a bitch, I didn‘t even disagree with you. Get off your high horse.
 
Love the ad after that article.
His facial expression clearly suggests
BUMP INTEGRATED INTO REAR may not be the best idea, it seems :)

Or as would Phil Schiller say: ,, can’t integrate my ar@e”
 

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Only that with phones we‘ve been taught that higher is better. Galaxy S is better than Galaxy A for example, or Moto Z is better than Moto E or G. And since you mentioned Schiller and the car reference, an S class is better than an A class and an RS6 is better than an S6, and an S6 is still better than than an A6. It‘s okay, you have your opinion and I have mine. For the third time, neither of us will know for sure until September.
I don’t think most iPhone users know anything about Samsung or Motorola nomenclature, I know I don’t, anyway. A class vs. S class doesn’t mean anything to me. But surely if you’d have said A class vs. B class, I’d know A class is better. Whatever RS6 means, it being being better than S6 doesn’t make your case since R comes first before S. Letters later in sequence being “better” doesn’t have the automatic meaning you think it does.

What iPhone users do know is $749 is less expensive than $999. Price tells you everything you need to know; you don’t have to attempt to divine it based on first/second/higher/better letter sequence or designations. That’s certainly not Apple’s intent, merely you assigning an inference.

btw I don’t know why you’re keeping track of how many times you refer to the September release; this site is based on rumors and speculation. If you’d rather not speculate and just want to wait until September when we’ll know for certain, feel free. If it’s other than 11R, 11 and 11 Max I’ll be surprised, but it won’t be the first time :)
 
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That's about 2-3mm there, which'd be about 30% thicker over all, that's going to feel hideous compared to now. No thanks.
The X and XS camera bump depth is a 1.2mm.

If the phone was as thick as the camera bump, it would only be slightly thicker than the XR.
 
If we're doing three focal lengths, I think I'd like to see: 24mm, 30mm, 60mm. I would make the 30mm the default "1x" lens that you get when you start up the camera. I would call the 24mm .8x and call the 60mm 2x.
 
I clearly said "I think" and never claimed to be "far better" or "more experienced" at market research. Still doesn‘t mean Apple is perfect at it, otherwise there wouldn‘t be the trash can Mac Pro for example. Also don‘t know why you‘re being a bitch, I didn‘t even disagree with you. Get off your high horse.


Ohhh, name calling. Now I'm convinced. Good job.
 
Garbage, although that's nothing new for Apple these days. Always switched to the new iPhone, but my iPhone XS looks better than this Frankenstein device.
 
Geez. Just make the phone a tiny bit thicker and lose the bump. Added bonus: more room for battery!

Agreed, this uber thin or bust mentality is getting idiotic. At some point, you lose grip area and battery capacity, or worse, in the case of the iPads, durability.

I'm not looking for a sheet of paper here, and I don't find myself very impressed with another millimeter shaved off...
 
You’re right about the 5c timing, but wrong that a letter coming after another in sequence somehow means the second letter denotes better or higher. We’ve been trained from a very young age that the first letter is “better”.
Well, that might be the case with grades in the states.
But if you could choose between the Mercedes A - Class or S-Class? What would be the superior model? Just saying..
 
I don’t think most iPhone users know anything about Samsung or Motorola nomenclature, I know o don’t, anyway. A class vs. S class doesn’t mean anything to me. But surely if you’d have said A class vs. B class, I’d know A class is better. Whatever RS6 means, it being being better than S6 doesn’t make your case since R comes first before S. Letters later in sequence being “better” doesn’t have the automatic meaning you think it does.

What iPhone users do know is $749 is less expensive than $999. Price tells you everything you need to know; you don’t have to attempt to divine it based on first/second/higher/better letter sequence or designations. That’s certainly not Apple’s intent, merely you assigning an inference.

btw I don’t know why you’re keeping track of how many times you refer to the September release; this site is based on rumors and speculation. If you’d rather not speculate and just want to wait until September when we’ll know for certain, feel free. If it’s other than 11R, 11 and 11 Max I’ll be surprised, but it won’t be the first time :)

I keep track of it to let you know that no matter how much we discuss, none of us know for sure and both of us can have different opinions. My explanations don‘t make sense to you and vice versa.
 
Why not simply mimic the design language of the newest iPad Pro without the camera bump? The newest iPad Pro is Apple's most attractive design across the product line. Additionally why can't Apple give up the camera bump to put a larger capacity battery.
 
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Every render just reinforces my thoughts on jumping over to Samsung... I'll get out of this Apple ecosystem soon enough.
 
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This is going to be the ugliest iPhone ever made. Too many cameras going on phones lately. It’s a smartphone. If you want a super duper camera, buy a camera. This is getting ridiculous.
 
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If Steve were alive, it wouldn’t be real. Neither would The Notch. Design was important, a main focus even...during his tenure...
Thought you were doing a parody post with the "If Steve were alive" intro, but now I realize you're serious...
 
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