That’s right! I demand another charger to put unused into the drawer with its brethren!
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Ha! I get it! Because it’s flat it’s really just the same phone even though it is completely different!
The headphones and slow charger have gone directly into a landfill with every iPhone we have bought. Good riddance.
You do realize that the 5W one still works right? You are proving Apple's point. In no universe would they have included an 18/20W charger it would have been a 5W. So are you complaining you are not getting another 5W charger that you won't use and still go buy the 18/20W?
I find it shocking the amount of commenters that think its acceptable for Apple to remove EarPods and the charger from the included accessories.
Half of you have some concerns about so called 'e-waste' which you can cannot fully explain other than to say somehow it's wasteful. Just labeling something 'waste' is not a shut down argument, FYI.
The other half think that because you've purchased too many devices yourself and have a drawer full of unused chargers that this must apply to the entire iPhone market.
If you're so concerned about your drawer full of unused accessories...sell them, instead of throwing them away. They have value and can be used by other people. If you want to complain about e-waste, YOU are the only people (the ones who buy too many devices) who are going to actually have this problem, so YOU can easily solve it by not throwing them away and instead putting them to use.
If Apple wants to slim down the iPhone packaging by separating these things out of the box so that they can save money on logistics and distribution, fine. They still need to be available, for free, to anyone who purchases an iPhone. For the people here who claim they don't want them, you can decline them. For everyone else who still wants the accessories, they can accept them.
And let's not forget why Apple has always shipped EarPods in the first place. Even though they are not legally required to do so (everywhere), they ensure that handsfree accessories are provided with every iPhone sold, for safety reasons. It would be a pretty poor decision to stop including a handsfree accessory.
And the charger, unlike EarPods, is essential to the function of the device. It is incomplete without the charger, and not immediately usable unless you source one elsewhere.
All of this is nothing to compared to the slight of not including a charger with a $1000 purchase. The astronomical and incalculable greed that we've steadily gotten used to from Apple will now take an even greater step forward.
Half of you have some concerns about so called 'e-waste' which you can cannot fully explain other than to say somehow it's wasteful. Just labeling something 'waste' is not a shut down argument, FYI.
The other half think that because you've purchased too many devices yourself and have a drawer full of unused chargers that this must apply to the entire iPhone market.
If you're so concerned about your drawer full of unused accessories...sell them, instead of throwing them away. They have value and can be used by other people. If you want to complain about e-waste, YOU are the only people (the ones who buy too many devices) who are going to actually have this problem, so YOU can easily solve it by not throwing them away and instead putting them to use.
If Apple wants to slim down the iPhone packaging by separating these things out of the box so that they can save money on logistics and distribution, fine. They still need to be available, for free, to anyone who purchases an iPhone. For the people here who claim they don't want them, you can decline them. For everyone else who still wants the accessories, they can accept them.
And let's not forget why Apple has always shipped EarPods in the first place. Even though they are not legally required to do so (everywhere), they ensure that handsfree accessories are provided with every iPhone sold, for safety reasons. It would be a pretty poor decision to stop including a handsfree accessory.
And the charger, unlike EarPods, is essential to the function of the device. It is incomplete without the charger, and not immediately usable unless you source one elsewhere.
All of this is nothing to compared to the slight of not including a charger with a $1000 purchase. The astronomical and incalculable greed that we've steadily gotten used to from Apple will now take an even greater step forward.
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I really hope they do!
Really, all the masses of people for whom the biggest complaint about the iPhone was the clumsy, oversized BOX will doubtless be ecstatic now!
Safety reasons? You realize that wearing earphones while driving is illegal most places, right?
Please quantify for all us the exact nature of the environmental impact that it will have.
- By slimming down the packaging and reducing the gross weight and shipping dimensions, fewer resources are allegedly needed to ship them, saving Apple a lot of money. Can you provide the exact details on the amount of fuel not burned because of this (and proof that this will actually be the case and not just negated by other transport practices) and then also the direct environmental impact from that exact reduction in emissions? I'd be interested to see how this would amount to something in the face of China outdoing the entire world on emissions 1000x over.
- Can you share specific details on exactly how many chargers and EarPods are discarded every year due to the specific reason that the person doesn't need them? From that, can you provide the specific environmental impact details that from number of discarded chargers and EarPods? That will be fascinating too considering most people do not throw away brand new things, and instead hold on to them for the future, or give them to people who need them, or sell them.
...or are you just doing what everyone else is doing and guessing that there must be SOME environmental impact even if you cannot possibly comprehend or codify it. Yeah, that's what I thought.
If i hold a pencil in mid-air and then drop it, i can be sure that it will fall to the ground at SOME rate, even if i cannot quantify it.
I have never used an Apple charging brick. Never. Since 30GB iPod Video.
It's a universal USB device you can plug it into just about anything and start charging. I could plug my iPhone into my stereo receiver and charge it. My alarm clock, my car, my laptops, man even most airplanes have USB ports. I have never used an Apple charger because its not efficient. People are complaining they aren't including a rapid charger. The reality check is they wouldn't ever do that it would just be another 5W for the junk drawer.
Go ahead and count how many unused USB ports you can find in your house I'll wait.
A charger is 100% not nessary to charge an iPhone. Never has been.
And that's the logical fallacy here...assuming that anything/everything that falls under a certain category will have an meaningful environmental impact, and that's simply not true. Environmental issues are much more complicated and nuanced than that. You can't just conclude that such minor changes will have a net positive impact somewhere. It just doesn't work that way.
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So when everyone who purchases an iPhone now also purchases a charger, somehow that's OK with you? Somehow those chargers are not superfluous because they were purchased instead of included?
It is funny to me to see how all forms of comprehensible logic are thrown out the window by people who want to virtue signal for some vague concept of "enviro-concern". That's what I'm seeing here.
What I would like to see is TRUE choice. If saving the environment is truly the reason behind not including the charger or any accessories.... then give people the choice not to have them.
When ordering a new iPhone as part of the ordering process ask people if they want to have the charger and cables included. Give people the option to to save $40 off the price if no accessories are included. This way everyone that has drawers full of chargers and cables do not get anymore un-needed accessories. People can pay full price and get accessories or save the $40. This will save waste and save people money as well.
When ordering a new iPhone as part of the ordering process ask people if they want to have the charger and cables included. Give people the option to to save $40 off the price if no accessories are included. This way everyone that has drawers full of chargers and cables do not get anymore un-needed accessories. People can pay full price and get accessories or save the $40. This will save waste and save people money as well.
We know they are using less paper. We know that a percentage of chargers go unused and thus didn’t need to be made in the first place. We know the same amount of phones will weigh less and thus use less fuel to transport. We know they can now use the same sku worldwide and not need to ship different chargers for different countries. There are a lot of data points, and very few that point in the direction of WORSE environmental effect.
I understand that this is a way for them to eat the cost of the new 5G antenae. "Cut where we can"
For this who agreed with separating charger and iPhone, special for you, exclusively iPhone 13 will be sold in 3 parts.
1st is supper thin box without device for 1.500$.
2nd is device without box with model 64gb 4.7” display only for 2.300$.
3rd is 5W charger start from 159.99$ for model with 4.7”. 5W charger for model with 5.7” only 219.99$.
and remember you can’t switch to next step without completion previous!
1st is supper thin box without device for 1.500$.
2nd is device without box with model 64gb 4.7” display only for 2.300$.
3rd is 5W charger start from 159.99$ for model with 4.7”. 5W charger for model with 5.7” only 219.99$.
and remember you can’t switch to next step without completion previous!
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Fully agree!
Especially if they want to encourage people to use official charging supplies thereby reducing the chance of fires.
Many places outside of the US it’s difficult to find Made For iPhone cables and chargers even when you know what they are and try to find of them.
I don’t mind if there are no charger or headphones. I just switched all my chargers to wireless so I wouldn’t even want another charger or cable. I know it’s personal and people will disagree, but I also don’t mind losing a little value/paying a little more for the environmental benefits of halving the packaging size. That’s going to be huge. We’re probably talking about millions of pounds of jet fuel.
Knowing Apple, I think that'll what they do in this case. Say these things are not needed but not drop the price.
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also decrease in shipping cost for the entire packaging being lighter.
I’d say that’s poorly written and easily challenged with one sentence, though I’m merely a neophyte here... anyway...
“It has a speakerphone”
I've always sold my power bricks with the phone when I upgrade so I don't have that many chargers lying around.
However, with everything (in theory) using USB-C as the charging port moving forward there is no need to have a charger with every device. You probably just need 1 powerful one for laptops and then a 1/2 smaller ones for phones and other accessories.
If I got a USB-C to Micro-USB cable I wouldn't need any USB-A type plugs.
However, with everything (in theory) using USB-C as the charging port moving forward there is no need to have a charger with every device. You probably just need 1 powerful one for laptops and then a 1/2 smaller ones for phones and other accessories.
If I got a USB-C to Micro-USB cable I wouldn't need any USB-A type plugs.
There will be earphone in the box, at least in France
This is a transcription of an EU law as described by Consomac
Unless they remove speaker phone capability this is a moot point.
Exactly, I have no idea why people on here don’t understand that including a charger in millions of iPhone boxes isn’t better for the environment. A large majority of comments have stated that Apple still ships a 5W charger on all but the pro models, which no one uses anyway! And safety issues by including headphones? What?