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Looking at iPhone OS 3.0 (sorry, no pics though, NDA!)

nfl46 said:
Do you really dislike that design? I think it looks pretty good. It even won in a poll posted a while back.
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I think it is butt ugly and extremely amateur looking!

mavis said:
Exactly. I mean, whatever happened to 'oh no, we couldn't use metal on the 3G due to radio interference' ... ?
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Funny how people forget things like that lol! :rolleyes: The only reason they even used plastic which Apple is all about not using and being green now, was because they HAD to because of the transmissions.

sleeptodream said:
So he sent you the screenshot along with an NDA for you to sign, before you had signed it?

Haha right.
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OrangeDog said:
Why the hell would a company that you don't even work for ask you to sign a NDA? And why would your friend who works there and so would have also signed a NDA even send it to you in the first place.

Sorry......I call BS.
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AMEN!!!
 
alchemistmuffin said:
With iPhone OS 3.0 preview coming up within next couple of days, I can share this:

Couple of days ago, my friend who works at Apple HQ in Cupertino sent me some of the screenshot for upcoming iPhone OS 3.0.

Sadly, attached with the email was also a PDF of NDA, which I had to sign and mail back. Therefore, I can't share the actual screenshot.
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Your friend in Cupertino, if he exists, is a bloody idiot. If he gets caught, he gets fired. Sending information together with an NDA is bloody moronic stupid, because the receiver isn't forced to sign the NDA. An NDA _must_ be received back signed before any information can get out.

You are also a bloody idiot, because you could be getting a "friend" in a position where he gets fired, and these are times when you really don't want anyone to get fired. If you look at the NDA, if it exists, you will surely find that it covers _any_ information about the iPhone, not just screen shots.
 
alchemistmuffin said:
Because I am an iPhone developer, and also, he is really close to me, he is basically our family friend.

He is the one who introduced me to programming code. He thought I would be interested with what's coming up with the iPhone OS. This is why he sent me the email.

He signed the NDA, but the officials told him that he can share the info as long as they sign the NDA as well.

So, shove off.
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You see, some of us actually do work in the business, and they know how things work and how they don't work.

If you work at a company, you don't sign NDAs for your company's products. You have an employment contract that covers this, and they will give you regular training courses what you may and may not do, and your manager will remind you from time to time that things are secret and nothing ever goes out from you, but you don't sign NDAs for this. NDAs are between different parties. NDAs are there so you can give information to people who would normally be allowed to pass it on. As an employee, you are not allowed to do this anyway.

So he doesn't work at Apple. But third party developers don't have any iPhone OS 3.0 info yet. If they have it under NDA, the NDA doesn't say you can share if the next one signs an NDA as well; the NDA says you can't share it with _anybody_, and within the company the information can only go to those who have a business need to access it.

Your story doesn't make any sense. And the only way you could defend yourself is by giving names, which will get your "family friend" sacked, will get his company into trouble, and will get whatever "officials" he talked to into big trouble as well.
 
You know, while you don't sound very convincing, you seem to describe exactly what I was told was coming in 3.0 by insiders.

Not sure about stacks, I heard categories instead, with a Time Machine style animation (however this was months ago).

The expanded dock and curved alu back model and background app info is the same as I've been assured. The status bar had a dot in the middle of it too, you drag it to do something. I can't remember what :)
 
anjinhamarota said:
These are the pics the OP is talking of the unibody aluminum iPhone: https://www.macrumors.com/2009/02/12/leaked-photos-of-next-generation-iphone/
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As a mechanical engineer that designs this kind of stuff, I can't help but weigh in. I doubt that's an aluminum piece. The features in that indicate that it's been injection molded. The pockets and bosses you see there wouldn't be something that would be machined. Think about it... machine tools (like end mills) are cylindrical (like a drill bit). Pockets with square corners and such are not possible. What IS possible is to make a multi-piece metal mold that is the inverse of that shape. The reason the mold is built up from multiple pieces is that perfectly internal corners are not possible to machine. (Unless an EDM process is used, but that would be too expensive for a mass produced consumer device in my experience.) External corners are possible. Now, it is possible it could be cast aluminum. However, cast aluminum is not as ductile; thin sections would have a tendency to crack. It's very unlikely a casting would be used in this application. Lastly, the finish doesn't make sense for an aluminum part. The make it black like that, there are only a couple of options. Anodizing would leave a glossy finish, so that's out. Painting is unlikely as well because they wouldn't likely paint the inside of the part so perfectly. The outside would have a nice finish for the end user, but the inside would probably be minimally painted, because there is no reason to add cost to something that can't be seen.

Just my $.02.

Cheers.
 
alchemistmuffin said:
With iPhone OS 3.0 preview coming up within next couple of days, I can share this:

Couple of days ago, my friend who works at Apple HQ in Cupertino sent me some of the screenshot for upcoming iPhone OS 3.0.

Sadly, attached with the email was also a PDF of NDA, which I had to sign and mail back. Therefore, I can't share the actual screenshot.

However, I can describe it to you, since Kevin Rose described it on live Diggnation. (which my friend attended, he's a huge fan of Diggnation)

First, the copy and paste. Kevin Rose got that right on! It is exactly how it works. However, Apple, always scared of battery issue, has limited the copy and paste to certain apps, such as Mail, Safari, etc. This is because iPhone and iPod touch uses lot of power on memory, therefore, the copy and paste is limited. But the how it works is exactly how Kevin Rose described it.

Now, the background process. The word is that Push Notification was failure. It did not work exactly as planned. Therefore, there will be a limited background support, up to 3 apps (may subject to change). The limit is to prevent iPhone from draining the battery like crazy hell.

Finally, redesign of the home screen. Not much changes, except users can now put personal background on the home screen, as well as adding more apps to the dock, expanding the limit from four to about seven, and stacks to organize the apps. This is how Apple will let users organize apps on the iPhone.

Now, my friend also sent me shots of what is the next iPhone. Someone already posted this pic, but the next iPhone will have a shell that is full unibody, carved from one aluminum. This means plastic will be gone (hopefully)

That's all I can share. Let's hope what I got on the email is right on for Mar. 17.
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There's no sense limiting copy and paste. Memory doesn't use more power because you're storing more in it, and since clipboards only hold one item at a time, you wouldn't even be storing more even if more apps were supported. Oh, and thanks to Cocoa, Apple wouldn't be able to stop copy and paste working in some apps - it would be part of the standard text control, so all apps would get it for free.

I bet you just think battery power poses arbitrary limitations on stuff and made something up. You should have gotten some help, then this might have been believable.
 
steventsmith said:
You know, while you don't sound very convincing, you seem to describe exactly what I was told was coming in 3.0 by insiders.

Not sure about stacks, I heard categories instead, with a Time Machine style animation (however this was months ago).

The expanded dock and curved alu back model and background app info is the same as I've been assured. The status bar had a dot in the middle of it too, you drag it to do something. I can't remember what :)
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Post #1, #33 and # 108.

Sounds convincing enough to me!

Ok, so they're pretty much telling me what I want to hear...SO!

:D
 
Mr. Giver '94 said:
I think they may be able to rework aluminum into the design without interfering with signal that much.

Just my 2cents. :)
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I agree.

And btw, I'm sure I'll get links thrown at me left and right on comparison threads and related material but where are all the first gen. iPhone owners?

Is reception just SO TERRIBLE through that aluminum casing? Anyone have both and compare them firsthand?

I mean it can't be THAT bad right? Ya know, since there are still a lot of first gen users out there, I hardly believe they're phones are next to unusable because they have a metal backing on their phones.
 
=MuLti-CeLL= said:
I agree.

And btw, I'm sure I'll get links thrown at me left and right on comparison threads and related material but where are all the first gen. iPhone owners?

Is reception just SO TERRIBLE through that aluminum casing? Anyone have both and compare them firsthand?

I mean it can't be THAT bad right? Ya know, since there are still a lot of first gen users out there, I hardly believe they're phones are next to unusable because they have a metal backing on their phones.
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The difference between this model and the first gen is the plastic strip that allowed the signals to get through the back of the first gen. This new model people are talking about is supposedly unibody aluminum, meaning seamless. No lines separating plastic strips.
 
Seriously, we'll find out tomorrow whether the OP is telling the truth or not, so why bother with trying to make a judgement now?

If tomorrow comes and the OP was talking nonsense, then feel free to give him some grief then.

Doing it now just leaves the doubters open to looking very foolish come Tuesday.
 
alchemistmuffin said:
Apple ... has limited the copy and paste to certain apps, such as Mail, Safari, etc.
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This is hard to believe; I am expecting to see a generic solution similar to magicpad.

alchemistmuffin said:
Finally, redesign of the home screen. ... as well as adding more apps to the dock, expanding the limit from four to about seven, and stacks to organize the apps. This is how Apple will let users organize apps on the iPhone.
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It is also hard to believe that there would be more than four items in the dock -- since this unbalances the symmetry of the springboard grid.

Stacks sounds cool, but the purpose of the dock is for quick - single tap - access to commonly used applications, and thus requiring a tap+hold+movement seems inefficient. But I do concede that a Stack would be faster to access than the current swipe(s) to access different springboard pages.

Either way we find out soon :)
 
rdowns said:
So, your friend, who is under an NDA, sent you an NDA to sign , which violates his NDA. LOL.
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It appears that you can share the info if you want, just as long as you sign a NDA not to share it! :p
 
Are peoples lives really so boring that they have to make crap up to post on an Internet forum? I feel sorry for you OP... I really do
 
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