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Windows XP always had folder and tree structure merging. Now Windows Vista has Duplicate and Replace, Windows 7 further simplified the interface with "Yes to All", "No to All", etc.

I hope, hope, hope, Finder catches up to basic core folder operations that I miss from Windows 95. It would make life so much easier than having to spend hours sorting through sub folders or try to get Automator to not-so-automate BASIC file operations.

Is that too much to ask? Welcome to 1995.

Oh, and native FTP with upload in the Finder would be nice. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

We have a winner here...:cool:
 
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Wait... What was that revolutionary new feature that Steve boasted about?
 
Stop going back

I understand why someone might want classic, but I don't like it. I want the lightest, cleanest, easiest OS. I use mail.app and I look forward to the changes. They seem to make an email client that is more about writing emails than how a program looks. I like the lack of color it makes the program blend into the background while still making the buttons visible when you need them.

My point is that if Apple is going to have classic in the system I wish you could not install it. Again I want light, clean, easy.
 
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Where is this?

https://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/29/apple-job-posting-suggests-revolutionary-new-mac-os-x-feature/
 
This build is a memory hog which easily eats up 3GB RAM. I'm lucky to have a 4GB RAM in MBA

Do people think I should get 8GB RAM if I want to run 10.7 well?

I am in the market for a new Macbook and I want a MBA.
But I worry that the C2D or 1.8GHz with only 4GB RAM may limit me with Lion.

Should I hold off and wait until more is known about Lion or will the current MBA be fully compat and not sluggish?

Also, what about the constant saving of documents and versions? How is that handled on the MBA with only 128GB SSD? It seems that SSD space is quite limited - or is this not likely to be an issue?
 
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Wait... What was that revolutionary new feature that Steve boasted about?

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Where is this?

https://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/29/apple-job-posting-suggests-revolutionary-new-mac-os-x-feature/

When did Steve 'boast' about it?
 
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zub3qin said:
This build is a memory hog which easily eats up 3GB RAM. I'm lucky to have a 4GB RAM in MBA

Do people think I should get 8GB RAM if I want to run 10.7 well?

I am in the market for a new Macbook and I want a MBA.
But I worry that the C2D or 1.8GHz with only 4GB RAM may limit me with Lion.

Should I hold off and wait until more is known about Lion or will the current MBA be fully compat and not sluggish?

Also, what about the constant saving of documents and versions? How is that handled on the MBA with only 128GB SSD? It seems that SSD space is quite limited - or is this not likely to be an issue?

I think it will be fine. The MBA will run lion great. And documents use so little disc space
 
what's with them washing out all colour from every sidebar? I can't believe that apple of all people, with all their understanding and flair for interface, would make all sidebars so hard to read by taking out any colour coding... I sure hope there's a revert option for this too...although I wonder why people will have to revert to get some decent functionality out of sidebars.

Sidebars already have small icons and text as is, why should they be made in colour?

This to me is just change for changes sake with very negative results....:(
 
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Sky Blue said:
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Wait... What was that revolutionary new feature that Steve boasted about?

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Where is this?

https://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/29/apple-job-posting-suggests-revolutionary-new-mac-os-x-feature/

When did Steve 'boast' about it?

I was remembering the story wrong, til I went back to look it up.
 
I'll probably get slammed for this but I was hoping for mail/cal/addy integration in some way. I may be a minority in this, but I think mail is such a weak link in OSX, and forces me to use outlook at the same time with work.

Mailhub is a great add on on SL and allows me to shoot a mail to a folder with a click. But seriously, this looks very similar to the same old mail with some different window variations.

Back to point, why don't they integrate them all in one? Mail cal and address that is?
 
love the new finder and it's hidden elements. Very cool. Love that Quickview now has a 'view in preview' button. Have always wanted that. My only criticism thus far is that it all looks rather drab. BIt of colour would have been nice. But funnily enough when the announced 'aqua' I complained that it looked too gimmicky. I spose this looks more pro and less consumer which is nice for a change.
 
I'll probably get slammed for this but I was hoping for mail/cal/addy integration in some way. I may be a minority in this, but I think mail is such a weak link in OSX, and forces me to use outlook at the same time with work.

Mailhub is a great add on on SL and allows me to shoot a mail to a folder with a click. But seriously, this looks very similar to the same old mail with some different window variations.

Back to point, why don't they integrate them all in one? Mail cal and address that is?

I agree. I really hope Mail and iCal steps up. THey seem a bit abandoned and more or less an after thought.
 
Does anyone know why iPad and iPhone have no problem with MS Exchange email accounts from work, but Mac Mail doesn't handle them- at least mine?

Will the new Mail on 10.7 be more Exchange friendly?
 
The negative:
I kind of miss the colour - I find myself having to spend a few extra milliseconds to identify the icons on the sidebar - from a design perspective this is bad practice - colour is an identifier; it allows people to distinguish things easier, so taking it out is just dumb.

Another dumb thing turning the view buttons into a slider - sorry but how stupid does that thing look sliding from left to right in a hurry! When I first saw the video I was wondering why there were 3 view option selected - actually got me excited that you might be able to combine view options - but no, it's just gimmicky add-on.

I think mission control would be a lot less needed if Apple started introducing tabs into their applications - imagine tabs on Mail and the finder instead of having a load of Windows floating about and making clutter, overlapping one another. It seems Apple is just using a band-aid fix when if it overhauled the UI it wouldn't need all these organisational apps.

The positive:
Improve Quick-view looks like it got some much-needed extra functionality.

New scroll bars are cool so long as there is an option to keep them on always (which there is) - more screen real estate woop!

Mixed/ concerns:
Flexible window resizing - neat idea but what was wrong with the one-corner option? I can get why they added it but now every time you go near an edge you're gonna get that ugly slider icon; basically feels a lot less coherent.

The devices list should be at the top!!!!


Hoping Apple will address some of the UI issues - I know a lot of people will disagree with me and that's fine, but I still hope Apple will listen to feedback on this OS either way. If it turns out in the end anything as good as Leopard was then we're in for a treat!

What an excellent post, I especially liked this:

Flexible window resizing - neat idea but what was wrong with the one-corner option? I can get why they added it but now every time you go near an edge you're gonna get that ugly slider icon; basically feels a lot less coherent.
 
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macduke said:
I can't help but feel like some of these UI elements don't fit together completely. Like the scroll bars, or the old dock style with the iOS style icon views above it (from other screen shots online), etc.

I feel like Apple is holding back on the UI. They will probably do something with that old style aluminum interface. Shouldn't we be seeing Marble now that it slipped from Snow Leopard? Or was that scrapped?

These quirks could easily feel integrated with a shift in the overall UI design. I also feel like there will be a UI change in iOS 5.0 that they will show next week. Certain things will remain the same, but the baby blues, etc will probably change. Something that really pops like crazy on the retina displays, and that perhaps could help unify the iPhone, iPad, and Mac just a little bit more. They won't be the same, but feel more cohesive.

Noticed that they change their website navigation bar to much darker color ?
Maybe it's a signal for total UI color change?
 
In the beginning it looked like there were only 12 apps in that folder... How are you supposed to know if there is more than what can fit in the window if the scroll bar disappears??? Stupid move if you ask me. This isn't a phone OS where screen realestate is lacking.

ditto

The scroll bars aren't just there to scroll around the document/window, they are there to show you at a glance where you are in that document. Goes directly against Apple's own human interface guidelines.

I hope that there is a setting somewhere to 'always display scroll bars', but I'm not confident of Apple giving us that choice.

And the disappearing hide/show controls is the same... the arrow was so much more obvious what it did and there all the time. Now you have to mouse over the area before you know there's a control there.
 
Don't get too enthusiastic/upset now dudes. I doubt that the final version will resemble this. Remember when Safari 4's beta tabs looked like google chrome?
 
They sure are going out of their way to make the entire interface touch-friendly, to the point where some of these things are harder to use with a mouse than they were before. Somewhere is Cupertino people are hammering away on touch-screen Macs, ergonomics be damned. I only wonder how long they'll be in development.

Giant slider for time machine preferences, slider instead of buttons for finder views, full-screen apps, iOS scroll bars (ie touch scrollbars), Larger interface elements in newer apps like iPhoto, scaling windows from all corners, touch-sized mail list in mail, Launchpad, etc.

It's clear they see touch in the Mac future, despite what they've said.
 
I'm not too convinced on this file categorisation. It just looks messy and inconvenient. I cannot imagine that I would use it in its current state. In addition, I'm actually disappointed that there haven't been any approaches on tabs in Finder. I usually have multiple windows open, and still have to switch between them by using Exposé. I also dislike the grey icons in the sidebar. I would appreciate if Apple maintains colored and grey versions and assigns them to either the colored or graphite appearance in System Preferences.
 
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Maybe they should bring classic back altogether. And ppc support, I mean really they had to drop it so fast? The last ppc Mac was sold in like 2006 right? So now we can't do anything with old macs anymore. Either way, there needs to be a reverse Rosetta.
 
What they're aiming at is . . .

They sure are going out of their way to make the entire interface touch-friendly, to the point where some of these things are harder to use with a mouse than they were before. Somewhere is Cupertino people are hammering away on touch-screen Macs, ergonomics be damned.

They're not targeting Lion at touch screen devices, they're targeting it at trackpads.

Trackpads are the sole input for MacBooks and MacBook Pros. For iMacs and Mac Pros, the mouse is currently used for 90% to 95% of input. But Apple has introduced the new Magic Trackpad, which essentially changes the desktop mice interface into a laptop-style trackpad interface (but for your desktop).

Apple sees a future where normal people use trackpads to interact with OS X, whether it's on a laptop or desktop. There will be a small group of professionals (probably including you) who need the precision of the mouse or can't make the transition to the trackpad.
 
Oh, double tap (not click) a single finger and it zooms the browser in the same way as iOS, cute!
 
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