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It's really short-sighted to expect apple to start killing consumer product lines when their market share is increasing every quarter.
 
Been waiting for this!

Well, been waiting for a refresh of the MBP. I've been wanting to replace my 2007 2.4GHz 15" for a while. Seems like all of the news has been iPad this, Verizon that for as long as I can recall. Can't wait!
 
and the one negative vote is for what reason?
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Give it up - you'll only raise your (or you're) blood pressure. I've been straightening people out on this for decades. And even when it takes, it's (or its) only for awhile....
 
I'm going to predict:

- MacBook white discontinued
- MacBook Air becomes the standard MacBook

So you think Apple will completely disregard what customers want?

The white MacBook is relatively cheap and can be easily upgraded to 6 GB RAM and a 750 GB hard drive. It has a 2.4 GHz processor. It has ten hours battery life. It has a screen that is much more suitable for people of 40 or more years.

Dropping the white MacBook means substantially fewer sales.


I think the line-up for laptops will be something like this for at least the next 6 months.

Macbook Air 11" Core 2 Duo
MacBook Air 13" Core 2 Duo
MacBook Pro 15" Sandy Bridge i5 and/or i7, NVidia GPU
MacBook Pro 17" Sandy Bridge i5 and/or i7, NVidia GPU

All models will come with SSD storage as standard.
All models will not have an optical drive.
We'll see a complete redesign for the Pro line with more space for battery.

I see potential customers saying that Apple has gone completely bonkers, that there is no way they are buying a laptop that doesn't have a 500 GB drive, that cannot read any CD or DVD of their huge collection, and they are not paying through the nose for a 500 GB SSD drive. Note that I say potential customers, not customers, since most of them won't turn into customers.
 
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It is DirectX 10.1 hardware. Show proof that it actually supports GPGPU in DirectX. It doesn't have OpenCL as per Intel.

AMD Fusion is DirectX 11. Llano has been advanced to Q2.
http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-graphics-developers-guides/

Read the developer white paper. Intel explicitly said Compute Shader 4.x is support on pg 14 and again on pg 16 when talking about shader capability. Unless you are saying Intel's lying in their developer documentation?

As to OpenCL, it is still ambiguous. I don't believe Intel has explicitly said Sandy Bridge's IGP does not support OpenCL. All they've done is claim Sandy Bridge in general supports OpenCL, which can be interpreted as meaning just CPU software support. Chris Foreman from Ars Technica did claim explicitly that Sandy Bridge's IGP doesn't support OpenCL, but he went as far as claiming Sandy Bridge doesn't support any GPGPU at all which is incorrect due to it's apparent Compute Shader support.

It's is true that DX10.0/DX10.1 hardware does not automatically mean Compute Shader support since AMD's HD2000 (DX10) and HD3000 (DX10.1) don't support CS4.0 or CS4.1. But so far hardware that has claimed CS support has also claimed OpenCL support like the nVidia G80 (DX10/CS4.0) and AMD HD4000 (DX10.1/CS4.1), so hopefully Sandy Bridge will be the same.
 
The only thing that would make me upgrade is if they implemented IPS panels into the displays. I wouldn't have need for an external monitor anymore. It's not fair that the iPad gets IPS but the pro laptops don't :(
 
MacBook Pro 17" Core i5 2.53GHz models available at Amazon right now....IN STOCK:

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook...ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1296084547&sr=1-1

I don't know where MacRumors is getting this false information.

The new MacBook Pros won't be out until at least February 20th.

EDIT: I see they are shipping these from J&R Computer World, where they have them in stock, not directly from Amazon.
 
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This is bullsh•t. MacBook Pro 17" Core i5 2.53GHz models available at Amazon right now....IN STOCK:

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook...ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1296084547&sr=1-1

I don't know where MacRumors is getting this false information.

The new MacBook Pros won't be out until at least February 20th.

The overall low supplies may be true but the amazon listings are useless.

The MBP 17 has been fluctuating between 1-2 months or next day shipping for while now.
 
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Can't wait for a refresh - however we normally see case leaks, blurry photos, etc if there is something coming out in the near future.

I haven't seen anything - I hope this means they don't simply make some internal changes and leave the casing the same. :confused:

Casing is going to be white with a retina display:)
 
Agree on SSD, but maybe with a slight delay on the Pro models? Unless they have a standard drive where the SuperDrive used to be? Pro users like me will have a hard time dealing with 128/256gb options, and 512GB SSD are currently prohibitively expensive. Though I might have to get along with toting one of those WD Elements 1TB 2.5" drives that are only around $100 right now.
The Pro would carry both an SSD and a 2.5" HD. I see the base configuration coming with a 64GB SSD + 500 GB HD. That can optionally be upgraded to 256GB SSD + 1TB HD.
 
This is great news, hop full they will put in sandy bridge, I read that article and that is awesome my friends. Let's see maby at the iPad event they will also announce new MacBook pros:D and on a side note I like the current casing A lot, unless they top the design for the next refresh I would appreciate if it stayed the same
 
It's about time!! Go figure alienware r3s got delivered yesterday and they look great and the day after it's Mac news !! What a great time to be stuck with cash with all these new notebooks!!!
 
It would be cool if the new MBP beat the iPad 2.0 to market. Also, doesn't it make sense to get it out sooner so buyers won't just wait until MBPs start shipping with Lion?

Great point, they probably want a 3 month window at least between the MBP release and Lion release. With Lion probably coming out in July, a March orApril release makes sense. But with iPad probably coming in April, they would need to squeeze the MBP out within the next few weeks as they would probably want to give the MBP at least 2 months before it receives competition for consumer's wallets.
 
Matte screen

I don't know why Apple seems to make second-class citizens out of those of us who don't like glairy screens, but I'm expecting that they'll come out with glossy-only first and it'll take months for the matte displays to be available. Meanwhile, we need to watch the new models for problems anyhow. Apple invariably misses something significant and those who buy in the first few weeks get kinda screwed.
 
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I dont care how much they cost... Going to get the fanciest macbook there is and desktop-big screen monitor, all on uncle sam's dime, as a write off for trading AAPL stock :) God bless America and god bless AAPL :)
 
That's great, I just bought a 15" Core i5 MBP.....thanks....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::mad::mad::mad:

I just bought one too, but don't regret it, it's a great machine, I bought mine refurbed for about $1500, I doubt the new 15's will be that price, considering the 13" macbook air ultimate is like $1569 or something..I always think of it this way, no matter when you buy, there will be a new better system coming out soon..
 
I'm afraid fringe users like yourself may be left to come up with creative solutions. I'm starting to see again a real distinction between laptop (tablet)
and desktop. Editing videos and sounds on a laptop is incredibly painful IMHO. It is just slower and the interface is not ideal. Most professionals and amateurs like myself prefer a desktop for video work. I just can't imagine creating a short youtube video with several hours of footage as raw material on a laptop. I guess you only do this if don't have a choice.
Today's best notebooks are faster than the two years ago desktops that were "fine" for video editing - at least CPU-wise and the graphics finally seem on the edge of "getting there."

I wouldn't presume to do pro-level editing on long, complicated 1080p video projects with a notebook if I had a better option (which I don't do anyway), but occasionally creating some edits for 720p YouTube purposing on a sub-10 minute clip with an i7 or even i5 NB and a separate monitor seems pretty "un-fringey" and not terribly extra-painful to me.

And not in reply to you, I'm really be in the camp for ditching the built-in optical drive. Plugging one in at home on the (for me rare) occasions most of us use 'em these days is a minimal chore at best - and using the room thus gained for some combo of always available longer battery life, possibly hybrid storage (SSD + HD) or a sleeker, lighter machine all seem like wins, separately (if we get one of the above in exchange) or in toto (more than one).

So my bet is the OD is gone. If not on this rev, certainly on the next case change.
 
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http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-graphics-developers-guides/

Read the developer white paper. Intel explicitly said Compute Shader 4.x is support on pg 14 and again on pg 16 when talking about shader capability. Unless you are saying Intel's lying in their developer documentation?

As to OpenCL, it is still ambiguous. I don't believe Intel has explicitly said Sandy Bridge's IGP does not support OpenCL. All they've done is claim Sandy Bridge in general supports OpenCL, which can be interpreted as meaning just CPU software support. Chris Foreman from Ars Technica did claim explicitly that Sandy Bridge's IGP doesn't support OpenCL, but he went as far as claiming Sandy Bridge doesn't support any GPGPU at all which is incorrect due to it's apparent Compute Shader support.

It's is true that DX10.0/DX10.1 hardware does not automatically mean Compute Shader support since AMD's HD2000 (DX10) and HD3000 (DX10.1) don't support CS4.0 or CS4.1. But so far hardware that has claimed CS support has also claimed OpenCL support like the nVidia G80 (DX10/CS4.0) and AMD HD4000 (DX10.1/CS4.1), so hopefully Sandy Bridge will be the same.

The alpha version of Intel's OpenCL for Sandy Bridge runs on the CPU side.

Where does Compute Shader run?
 
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