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[Merged] iPhone 5 / 2011 iPhone speculation thread
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Retail of the 3g/3gs was 699 I believe, remember the 299 price is with a contract. Some people want a non-contracted phone so they can use t-mobile or another cell provider.
My guess is that it'll be the iPhone 4G next summer, and that AT&T will be on 4G. Same design though, but it will get 64GB and 32GB models. Just my input.
ATT normally lets you upgrade every 12-18 months... not the full 24.
For me, it's normally been 12. It all depends on a bunch of different stuff... but I have 5 lines, all iphones, and I pay for a 6th as well... so they normally want to keep my business so I get that 12 month upgrade.
For me, it's normally been 12. It all depends on a bunch of different stuff... but I have 5 lines, all iphones, and I pay for a 6th as well... so they normally want to keep my business so I get that 12 month upgrade.
No reason, because it will be minor as the 3GS vs. 3G. Who knows, it could be the iPhone 4S. This is a huge upgrade and if anything, like others said, AT&T will allow us to upgrade anyway.
And the 3G with iOS 4 is SLOOOWWW...I need the speed
And the 3G with iOS 4 is SLOOOWWW...I need the speed
I gotta say, for me, the features that iPhone 4 offers simply are not worth the huge amount of money it costs to upgrade.
I know a lot of people on here simply sell their old handset and this essentially pays for their upgrade price if they sign a new 2 year deal with AT&T. I'm not sure if it is the same in the US but here in the UK if you buy your phone yourself you can get a sim-only contract that is much much cheaper.
I pay £15 a month for unlimited txts and 1GB of data with 600 mins which means I never pay more than that a month. To get the same tariff with a new iphone 4 I would have to pay at least £35 a month over 18 months plus the upgrade price (which the sale of my iPhone 3G should probably cover) and be tied to a contract telling me when i can upgraded.
That is still a huge amount of money, albeit not upfront, for a better camera that i never use, facetime which is a feature available on many phones since about 2002 (but that doesn't even work over 3G) and i have also never used when i had a nokia and better battery (which would be nice but i have a car charger so never run out anyway).
I love the new design and I'm sure the screen looks amazing but is it at least£350 better? I'm not sure really. If anything i would probably just plump 70 quid or so to swap out my 3g for a 3gs to get the speed increase it would bring if i get fed up but im not too sure this will happen (JB'ed multitasking on 3G has made a MASSIVE difference for me over 3.1.3). I think that I may well have got all the life out of my 3G by next year so i will probably join the OP in upgrading then (with the 3G still holding some residual value anyway).
In summary: the iPhone 4 is nice but then so are all the previous iPhones so the cost, in my opinion, is hard to justify.
I know a lot of people on here simply sell their old handset and this essentially pays for their upgrade price if they sign a new 2 year deal with AT&T. I'm not sure if it is the same in the US but here in the UK if you buy your phone yourself you can get a sim-only contract that is much much cheaper.
I pay £15 a month for unlimited txts and 1GB of data with 600 mins which means I never pay more than that a month. To get the same tariff with a new iphone 4 I would have to pay at least £35 a month over 18 months plus the upgrade price (which the sale of my iPhone 3G should probably cover) and be tied to a contract telling me when i can upgraded.
That is still a huge amount of money, albeit not upfront, for a better camera that i never use, facetime which is a feature available on many phones since about 2002 (but that doesn't even work over 3G) and i have also never used when i had a nokia and better battery (which would be nice but i have a car charger so never run out anyway).
I love the new design and I'm sure the screen looks amazing but is it at least£350 better? I'm not sure really. If anything i would probably just plump 70 quid or so to swap out my 3g for a 3gs to get the speed increase it would bring if i get fed up but im not too sure this will happen (JB'ed multitasking on 3G has made a MASSIVE difference for me over 3.1.3). I think that I may well have got all the life out of my 3G by next year so i will probably join the OP in upgrading then (with the 3G still holding some residual value anyway).
In summary: the iPhone 4 is nice but then so are all the previous iPhones so the cost, in my opinion, is hard to justify.
I've sold both old iPhones to buy the latest model on launch day. This is how it works.
Sell the old iPhone, wipe the info, take out my SIM. It's now the buyer's phone. They don't have to sign a long-term contract with AT&T (or T-Mobile if it's unlocked; I've sold both locked and unlocked), so they're paying more than the subsidized price for the privilege.
I take stellar care of my belongings, so they're getting a pristine 12 month old iPhone for between subsidized and full retail price. All they have to do it insert their SIM and activate it. Their plan is between them and their carrier. As soon as I wipe and remove my SIM, I'm out of that equation. I don't terminate my AT&T contract when I get the new subsidy (or, as in last year's case, partial subsidy), I'm extending it. Like this year, my contract would go until June of 2011, but I'm pushing the reset button, so to speak, and am signing another two-year contract starting this month, to take advantage of the $199/299 price points. So instead of the contract ending 6/2011, it'll end 6/2012. Because I'm not terminating the contract, I don't owe any ETFs.
I've been doing the same thing for probably 8 years now, first with Verizon, then with AT&T.
I'm selling the 32gb white 3GS for $425, and paying $299 for the iPhone 4.
Get it?
ETF has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the device other than determining how much the fee will be. It is charged if you cancel your contract, not if you switch phones or sell your phone or whatever.
ETF is a non-issue for selling phones.
Now that we know iPhone 4 has 512 MiB RAM, then IMHO there is one less reason to wait for iPhone 5.
Regarding your other comment about FaceTime improvements: these will be software driven -- perhaps we will see some improvements already in iOS 4.1. The most obvious improvement would be compatability with iChat
iPhone 5 Predictions
So now that we all know really whats in iPhone 4, what are your predictions for the hardware in iPhone 5 next year?
Since it will be just a modest update I think Apple will follow the trend and put a higher MP camera in it, probably around 8 MP for the rear and the front camera will also get a bump up from VGA. Depending on what the iPad gets the processor might also see a clock speed bump.
Other then that I don't think there will be much more change. I do not think there will be a 4G (network) version till the 6th Gen iPhone. I also don't think it will be coming to Verizon next year. Personally I think it would go to T-Mobile first.
So now that we all know really whats in iPhone 4, what are your predictions for the hardware in iPhone 5 next year?
Since it will be just a modest update I think Apple will follow the trend and put a higher MP camera in it, probably around 8 MP for the rear and the front camera will also get a bump up from VGA. Depending on what the iPad gets the processor might also see a clock speed bump.
Other then that I don't think there will be much more change. I do not think there will be a 4G (network) version till the 6th Gen iPhone. I also don't think it will be coming to Verizon next year. Personally I think it would go to T-Mobile first.
Who's the President of the United States in 1985?
Ronald Reagan.
Ronald Reagan!? The actor!?
New notification system that isn't a total piece of **** like the current one. Steve will call it magical. He'll then show videos of his designers crying with joy over how revolutionary the new notification system is. I'll mock their stupid videos. Life goes on.
