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Wow. He's probably not far off the mark; I've never seen a company's reputation go into the sh*tter as fast as Apple's has over the last month or so. From the whole lost iPhone fiasco, to the cluster**** that was iPhone preorders, to the embarrassing problems it had after launch as well as the pathetic response of the lord, Jobs, it's been pretty bad. Not to mention the whole Foxconn thing, and this new Apple Store directive of 'we're going to make service better by working our employees into the ground.'

That being said, however, this guy from MS is unreal. I can't believe he actually said something along the lines of "haha! now you're company sucks as much as ours does!" ;)
 
Interesting to see MS laughing at Apple for once. Apple always poked fun at MS in the 'get a mac' ads, now they get some pay back.

I do love my new iPhone 4, and no problem as I always buy cases for my small gadgets. However, I still think it is a massive cock up by Apple, so fair play MS!
 
What complete nonsense. You are well in denial about the facts.
All the user outrage and now even MS admits that Vista was a huge dud? Must be for a reason right..

- slow as *** on every single computer. It was noticably slower than XP even on high-end PCs

I've already addressed this.

- the new explorer ... unintuitive, unresponsive, wouldn't even remember its last position

What's different? It's exactly the same if you use the same preferences. This is your imagination or preference settings.

- file copying, of all things! ... they must have been the first to mess up a basic OS task that had been around since 1843

I see no difference in file copying between XP and Vista. What are you talking about? 1843, Really? - What dream was THAT?

- sidebar? well at least you could switch that piece of junk off

Again, what's wrong with the sidebar? It's kinda cool if you want it. It's easy to turn off if you don't. Again, this is just a PREFERENCE, not a failure in OS design.

- indexing when least appropriate

That's not true, but this easily turned off or can be minimized with preference choices.

- they reshuffled the messy control panel to make it even more messy

Not to me. Very little control panel change here. Just display it with bigger icons if you prefer an XP like experience. Actually, the layout on the control panel is MORE organized. But this is al personal preference.

- three letters of pure horror and outright stupid worst-case design decisions: UAC

Just turn it off. Jeez...you Mac guys don't understand having PREFERENCES? You can do anything you want. It takes like 3 seconds.


BTW When Vista came out, Apple already had a GPU-rendered UI for years and it didn't require a high-end Mac to work properly! So your argument fails miserably.

Optimized for hardware that Apple CONTROLS ENTIRELY. Even PSP's can render high res graphics if they totally control the hardware. Windows doesn't have that luxury.


Yeah, they fixed most of these things in 7, but they made you pay for it

No. The only thing they did was make it less resouce intensive, and then only slightly. It's really all perception.

Truthfully. I can care less about an OS. It's transparent to me. The apps are what counts. Vista is just like any other OS. It works fine. I use XP, Vista, Win7 and Mac OS regularly. I notice very little functional difference after getting to know the specifics of each. The arguments are insane, really.

Tony
 
Laughable

I have never heard such crap. Microsoft just has to jump on the Apple bashing bandwagon just like everyone in the media. iOS4 is very superior to Vista and they "Microsoft" are just jealous. Never once has my phone crashed!
 
I'm sure you can tell me how to set up a good network share. :rolleyes:
Childish. Nice.
I wouldn't waste my time.

Icons are another problem as well. Defaults worked in Tiger but now you have to learn to exclude everything but that one folder you want to look a certain way.

You'll then change the spacing in one window only to have another one have the default spacing. Window sizes changing every time you open a new Finder window in a different directory or from a stack. BLARGH....

Windows 7 has one Explorer window size fits all. Sheesh.

Taking List view out of the Open/Save dialog was a sin and the icon previews have a 50% chance of working.
List view sucks for Open/Save. As for the rest, spend more time using your operating system instead of tinkering with it. It's not a flower garden, stop trying to make it into one. Not that any of your complaints make a lot of sense. I've never had trouble with icons or spacing.

Cmd + T

Then you realize Finder has focus.
Cmd + T... where? Open a tab? Open the font menu? Insert a tab? Where does that give focus to the Finder? Or in the Finder to add something to the left-hand menu, where the Finder had focus to begin with?

It's all the same to me. Finder's quirkiness has been much more annoying post-Tiger. Network nonsense aside.
Sounds like you've just got your way of doing things and you aren't interested in deviating much. Try it out. It is necessary when working between different operating systems (assuming you even do).

You opened this can of worms. Bootstrapped Spotlight was light years beyond of what Leopard and Snow Leopard do for actually finding what you want in seconds instead of digging for it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9132312#post9132312
That is seriously your gripe? Now, I actually do agree with you. I liked the previous way of doing things. But it is a minor nitpick and that + isn't such a pain to use in cases where Spotlight couldn't find your file. If you are using advanced searches enough for that minor thing to be a huge issue to you, you really need to organize your files.

In any case, have fun. You're making a mountain out of an anthill, and the disappointment that comes of that is something you get to enjoy yourself.
 
I don't, because for me it's not a problem. Or explain in details, because i'm on 7th bottle of finest apple cider that money can buy :D

"7th bottle of finest apple cider"... hmmm... very classy... and you accuse Microsoft with all sorts of things?

Actually, the "finest apple cider" bit made me laugh. What an oxymoron!
 
Well, it's not true for the iPhone 4, but it is true for iOS 4.

See, iOS 4 is not compatible with 1st generation touch devices, sort of like old machines that can't take Vista.

Battery life, speed and reliability has also dropped with iOS 4 similar to how Vista never worked, and was not secure.

iOS 3 = XP
iOS 4 = Vista
iOS 5 = 7 (I can't wait for this one! ;))
You clearly never used iOS4, right ?

The point, since most of you seem to be far too dense and/or blinded fanboy lemmings to reason rationally, is that the problems with Vista were grossly exaggerated in comparison to reality...

...much like the iPhone 4 issues. This has the potential to wind up into a PR disaster, depending on how Apples' competitors choose to go about it. Wonder if we'll be seeing any "I'm an Android" commercials soon...

Problems with Vista were REAL and huge.
 
Where are you finding this information? and do you honestly believe that apple will recall all the already sold iphones to coat the antenna on their own dime?

The info is on Page 2, but I have no idea how this would be possible. But it's there, so it's not totally absurd!
 
What A Terrible Analogy!

The key word in this subject line is: "might."

Vista is terrible software(!); the only problem with iPhone 4 is people's mistaken perception of how much signal they actually get from AT&T and what happens when you happen to put your hand over any given cell phone antenna.

This issue definitely falls in the category of the "Apples to Oranges" logical fallacy - an extremely apropos fallacy!
 
IMO, the results GUI was a lot better back than in Snow Leopard. Now, its been crippled - not as flexible. However, the ability to add conditions is great ( I know you could before but it was a hidden feature ).
Yeah. I hope they go back and improve it some—strike the right balance between advanced searching and convenience, because both have their moments.
 
How so?

Its a great phone with one flaw that can be solved with a £5 accessory or "holding it differently".

You mean the phone that can't make a phone call without sinking even more money into the thing, or instead of the phone working for you, you work to accommodate the phone? Brilliant.
 
Childish. Nice.
I wouldn't waste my time.


List view sucks for Open/Save. As for the rest, spend more time using your operating system instead of tinkering with it. It's not a flower garden, stop trying to make it into one. Not that any of your complaints make a lot of sense. I've never had trouble with icons or spacing.


Cmd + T... where? Open a tab? Open the font menu? Insert a tab? Where does that give focus to the Finder? Or in the Finder to add something to the left-hand menu, where the Finder had focus to begin with?


Sounds like you've just got your way of doing things and you aren't interested in deviating much. Try it out. It is necessary when working between different operating systems (assuming you even do).


That is seriously your gripe? Now, I actually do agree with you. I liked the previous way of doing things. But it is a minor nitpick and that + isn't such a pain to use in cases where Spotlight couldn't find your file. If you are using advanced searches enough for that minor thing to be a huge issue to you, you really need to organize your files.

In any case, have fun. You're making a mountain out of an anthill, and the disappointment that comes of that is something you get to enjoy yourself.
I'll be sure to look to you when Apple decides to break my workflow or pull the rug out from under me when I try to use Finder or Spotlight.

Spotlight alone was the biggest reason that got me to buy a Mac. I can not be asked to reorganize thousands of my files. It worked perfectly in Tiger. Why is that not so afterward?

Your input was not of any additional value to me. Please have a good day.
 
You mean the phone that can't make a phone call without sinking even more money into the thing, or instead of the phone working for you, you work to accommodate the phone? Brilliant.
I love the ignore feature.

How about buying one before you tell people how it works?
 
Childish. Nice.
I wouldn't waste my time.


List view sucks for Open/Save. As for the rest, spend more time using your operating system instead of tinkering with it. It's not a flower garden, stop trying to make it into one. Not that any of your complaints make a lot of sense. I've never had trouble with icons or spacing.


Cmd + T... where? Open a tab? Open the font menu? Insert a tab? Where does that give focus to the Finder? Or in the Finder to add something to the left-hand menu, where the Finder had focus to begin with?


Sounds like you've just got your way of doing things and you aren't interested in deviating much. Try it out. It is necessary when working between different operating systems (assuming you even do).


That is seriously your gripe? Now, I actually do agree with you. I liked the previous way of doing things. But it is a minor nitpick and that + isn't such a pain to use in cases where Spotlight couldn't find your file. If you are using advanced searches enough for that minor thing to be a huge issue to you, you really need to organize your files.

In any case, have fun. You're making a mountain out of an anthill, and the disappointment that comes of that is something you get to enjoy yourself.

Eidorian and stuck record on an old gramophone is actually the same thing.
 
iPhone 4 is less than a month old and Apple has been promising for a fix. Vista is over three years old but there is still no fix, other than Windows 7.

So that MS guy is saying there won't be a fix until iPhone 5 and then iPhone 4 is silently buried?
 
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