I haven't dropped one call and the quality of the call is miles better than my 3G. Why would I badmouth the iPhone 4, when it has been nothing but spectacular for me? Sounds pretty insane. Just because you are having problems doesn't mean everyone is. If I were you I'd just take the phone back.
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Microsoft Executive on Apple: 'iPhone 4 Might Be Their Vista'
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I haven't dropped one call and the quality of the call is miles better than my 3G. Why would I badmouth the iPhone 4, when it has been nothing but spectacular for me? Sounds pretty insane. Just because you are having problems doesn't mean everyone is. If I were you I'd just take the phone back.
Things like this and the Verizon signal commercials just show how nervous Apple makes these companies. They would have been better keeping their mouth shut.
How come he didn't mention their phone KIN?
Oh.. that's right, it was only in the market for 48 days and only sold 503 units. Even at a discounted price of $50 (or less)... 503 UNITS SOLD!!!!
Then blame Verizon for not promoting it enough. You already spent millions for its marketing.
WOW, still has a face to comment on the iPhone. Gutsy, gutsy move dude...
In the end, we all know that windows mobile 7 will not even measure up to Android... What more with iOS 4.
Oh.. that's right, it was only in the market for 48 days and only sold 503 units. Even at a discounted price of $50 (or less)... 503 UNITS SOLD!!!!
Then blame Verizon for not promoting it enough. You already spent millions for its marketing.
WOW, still has a face to comment on the iPhone. Gutsy, gutsy move dude...
In the end, we all know that windows mobile 7 will not even measure up to Android... What more with iOS 4.
On one hand, Microsoft does look a bit foolish with this statement. On the other, at least it shows that they're willing to own up to their mistakes. It's something that would be greatly appreciated by a lot of Apple loyalists right about now. I think you'd see a lot of the gnashing of teeth die down if Jobs would issue a simple statement acknowledging the problem and the frustration of his customers.
Tony, Vista runs well on this sort of machine. It also runs much more slowly than XP, and even when running properly, it leaves you with a fraction of the system resources that you would have been able to enjoy if using XP. You're really picking a dog of an operating system to defend.
They use XP for a reason
Over 75% of company computers have XP installed. Many skipped Vista but at one point, these companies will upgrade to another OS that can last another decade. What works well and what people got familiar with has more power than any marketing and PR stunts.
The logic behind Microsoft's move is understandable - Vista is an old product of theirs, whereas iPhone 4 is a failure TODAY, with the competitor's latest product. Also, exercising a bit of self-criticism about a problematic product shows that they are still humans. In that sense it only makes Apple Inc's denial and PR disaster more explosive. This crisis is just alienating Apple for many potential customers.
I only use Apple computers, but even I find the MS commercials better in the sense that they are about everyday situations and people and are not as clinical and annoying as Apple's advertisements. Ironically, but understandably, many viewers felt sorry for the PC guy in the 'Get a Mac' campaign. Currently, Microsoft's image is fine and more people associate them with qualities that might make them purchase one of their products.
Over 75% of company computers have XP installed. Many skipped Vista but at one point, these companies will upgrade to another OS that can last another decade. What works well and what people got familiar with has more power than any marketing and PR stunts.
The logic behind Microsoft's move is understandable - Vista is an old product of theirs, whereas iPhone 4 is a failure TODAY, with the competitor's latest product. Also, exercising a bit of self-criticism about a problematic product shows that they are still humans. In that sense it only makes Apple Inc's denial and PR disaster more explosive. This crisis is just alienating Apple for many potential customers.
I only use Apple computers, but even I find the MS commercials better in the sense that they are about everyday situations and people and are not as clinical and annoying as Apple's advertisements. Ironically, but understandably, many viewers felt sorry for the PC guy in the 'Get a Mac' campaign. Currently, Microsoft's image is fine and more people associate them with qualities that might make them purchase one of their products.
So if I could install Windows Phone 7 on my iPhone, I will not have signal issues? And this whole "hold-properly" meaningless debate will be over?
Well that didn't take long to find another iPhone related story...
This is the reality, most people buy Apple products so they can show them off. Regardless if you want to believe the iPhone 4 issues are real or not, when someone sees you have an iPhone 4 they don't look at it with envy and tell you they wish they had one, too. They ask you if yours is broken. Hence, taking away the majority of users' reason for buying it. And it doesn't matter if you say "no", because they'll figure you're lying anyway. If Apple did the right thing, came clean, and had a path to resolution, like replace the back covers with a built in antenna by-passing the external one, you could at least say "yeah, but it'll take me five minutes to get it fix at the Apple Store.
This is the reality, most people buy Apple products so they can show them off. Regardless if you want to believe the iPhone 4 issues are real or not, when someone sees you have an iPhone 4 they don't look at it with envy and tell you they wish they had one, too. They ask you if yours is broken. Hence, taking away the majority of users' reason for buying it. And it doesn't matter if you say "no", because they'll figure you're lying anyway. If Apple did the right thing, came clean, and had a path to resolution, like replace the back covers with a built in antenna by-passing the external one, you could at least say "yeah, but it'll take me five minutes to get it fix at the Apple Store.
What complete nonsense. You are well in denial about the facts.
All the user outrage and now even MS admits that Vista was a huge dud? Must be for a reason right.
I don't even know where to start:
- slow as *** on every single computer. It was noticably slower than XP even on high-end PCs
- the new explorer ... unintuitive, unresponsive, wouldn't even remember its last position
- file copying, of all things! ... they must have been the first to mess up a basic OS task that had been around since 1843
- sidebar? well at least you could switch that piece of junk off
- indexing when least appropriate
- they reshuffled the messy control panel to make it even more messy
- three letters of pure horror and outright stupid worst-case design decisions: UAC
- more, but too lazy to point out the obvious
BTW When Vista came out, Apple already had a GPU-rendered UI for years and it didn't require a high-end Mac to work properly! So your argument fails miserably.
Yeah, they fixed most of these things in 7, but they made you pay for it.
Ah, see your quote here. What is your definition of "Just Fine"? Stuttering from time to time, locking up occasionally? A BSOD on occasion? Memory leaks, networking dropouts, program incompatibility... the list can continue on forever. The interesting thing is that by CHANGING the operating system seemed to solve my issue.
My definition of "Just Fine" is no roadblocks, no annoyances, no stutters, no errors, and respectable boot times and functioning memory management. Boot time of 20 seconds to 40 seconds is "Acceptable". Vista boot times of literally 5+ minutes is not.
I like how Microsoft acknowledges Vista's failure just to make fun of the iPhone! It's their own product, they should still pretend it was a success, for the sake of reputation. And Vista was flawed in every possible way, so badly that people still use XP. It wasn't even built with good intentions. The iPhone 4 only has this one problem, which might even get fixed if the rumours of the new coated antenna are true.
There you go, definative proof the iPhone doesn't have reception issues. Seriously what is it going to take to convince people the phone has reception issues. It's because of people like you that Apple won't do anything to rectify the situation.
Not that you'd expect me to say otherwise on here ...
but come on!? The fact remains that no matter WHICH way I hold a new Microsoft phone, it's going to still be running a half-ass operating system. (Last I heard, "copy/paste" was removed from it! So it LOSES a feature the older Windows Mobile had, AND one which they made such a huge deal about the iPhone not having in earlier firmware revisions!)
The iPhone 4 initial sales were FAR better than Microsoft could boast about with Vista adoption .... and we won't be stuck waiting years for the iPhone 5 to address whatever issues remain with it, either!
The fact of the matter is, people want/expect their new Apple products to be as close to perfection as possible. That is, after all, what Apple promises and mostly delivers on. When they make a mistake, however tiny, the media is all over them. Everyone I know using a new iPhone loves their phone and openly admits it's better in most ways than previous models they owned. The issue with it losing signal when the bottom corner is touched can be eliminated by covering that part of the phone with practically ANYTHING that's non-conductive (like a CASE). If you had a new phone you really loved except for that one issue -- wouldn't you just put a case on it and solve the problem rather than return the phone and use something inferior?
but come on!? The fact remains that no matter WHICH way I hold a new Microsoft phone, it's going to still be running a half-ass operating system. (Last I heard, "copy/paste" was removed from it! So it LOSES a feature the older Windows Mobile had, AND one which they made such a huge deal about the iPhone not having in earlier firmware revisions!)
The iPhone 4 initial sales were FAR better than Microsoft could boast about with Vista adoption .... and we won't be stuck waiting years for the iPhone 5 to address whatever issues remain with it, either!
The fact of the matter is, people want/expect their new Apple products to be as close to perfection as possible. That is, after all, what Apple promises and mostly delivers on. When they make a mistake, however tiny, the media is all over them. Everyone I know using a new iPhone loves their phone and openly admits it's better in most ways than previous models they owned. The issue with it losing signal when the bottom corner is touched can be eliminated by covering that part of the phone with practically ANYTHING that's non-conductive (like a CASE). If you had a new phone you really loved except for that one issue -- wouldn't you just put a case on it and solve the problem rather than return the phone and use something inferior?
Microsoft Fail
It doesnt matter how you hold the phone. it was the carriers fault for the dropped call and 1 wrong formula in the code which had nothing to do with the dropped calls. Microsoft FAIL yet again. maybe if they did this "keynote" 2 weeks ago it would have been fine.
Regardless of it not displaying the right signal... for now. its still the best phone on the market and better than the last iphone.
iphone 4 is no vista. ts a massive improvement.
All Microsoft gained out of this is was telling everyone their own product "vista" is garbage
It doesnt matter how you hold the phone. it was the carriers fault for the dropped call and 1 wrong formula in the code which had nothing to do with the dropped calls. Microsoft FAIL yet again. maybe if they did this "keynote" 2 weeks ago it would have been fine.
Regardless of it not displaying the right signal... for now. its still the best phone on the market and better than the last iphone.
iphone 4 is no vista. ts a massive improvement.
All Microsoft gained out of this is was telling everyone their own product "vista" is garbage
Don't forget that Mac has it's own UAC - everytime it requires you to type in a Administrator username/password.
Agree completely with your other points
