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Microsoft Unveils Xbox One, an All-In-One Entertainment System with Revamped Kinect and Fully Integrated SmartGlass

Liquorpuki said:
I never get this pricing argument. People spend up to $800 for an iPad and some people get a new one every year. But a $300-500 console that's good for the next half a decade is considered too expensive?
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Me either. But then again - we're on MacRumors. So I imagine people will suggest that they don't mind paying for a quality product vs M$ (their epithet not mine)

I bought my PS3 at least 6-7 years ago. Have no desire/need to change it. the $399 I paid for it (which I really just use as a blu-ray player and not gaming at all) was well worth it. At the time - I figured - ok - slightly expensive (but great) blu-ray player for me - and if I ever want - it also happens to play some cool games.

Well worth the $399 and has had great longevity.
 
People will pay more for a console if they view it as a media console too... that said again every rumor points to another device from Microsoft next year, the "Xbox TV" that will be a "headless" version of the console delivering the media functionality and tv overlays, music control, movie rentals, and playing simple games for $99 a shot. I think MS envisions a household with an Xbox One and several additional Xbox TV extenders.
 
canyonblue737 said:
3. MS plans to release "Xbox TV" devices in 2014 that are priced and sized like a current Apple TV (ie. $99) that will extend the functionality of the Xbox One to your other TVs minus playing the actual disk based games (but will play family friendly "Arcade" like games). This will allow all the TV/media content and control to extend to all your TVs a price reasonable point.

Apple needs to get on the ball... they need an App Store for Apple TV and a way for the Apple TV to work with live television including providing guide data, control of your media stack, and internet based content along side live TV.
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Or it could be Apple gave up on the living room and simply continues AppleTV as is - a "hobby" with low new investment?

If your prediction 3. (there are many rumors it on the Internet) comes true and Xbox "lite" arrives in 2014 at 99 USD this market will be hard for Apple TV or other competitors.

Microsoft is way ahead in the living room in my opinion.
 
bchery21 said:
I don't know what to say about this. They should call it BoomBox because that console looks huge.
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The images are a bit misleading. Go on IGN and look at the console next to the console - its no bigger than the current 360 console from the looks of it.

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uknowimright said:
anyone else think somewhere some Nintendo execs said to themselves "man we f'ed up"
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I dont think anyone can even argue that Nintendo are in the same market to be honest.
 
drew0020 said:
You're joking, right?

The Xbox has Live, the great tv integration, and updated kinect. I guess it ultimately comes down to the types of games you play, but to me its no contest based on both unveilings so far.
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The PS4 is basically vaporware at this point; I can't believe they bothered to have a press conference that didn't show any hardware or give any specs. All that said to me was that Sony really has no vision and they're waiting to copy the competitor...lame!

When Apple has a press conference you see the device, learn the specs, and know the price and release date. That's how you do it if you have confidence and vision!

The Xbox seems pretty interesting. Main problem for me is that I don't watch regular TV anymore. It's all either Netflix, movies on my computer or iTunes via AppleTV. However, if Apple doesn't release some cool stuff later this year I may begin to consider other options like the Xbox One.

My only hope is that if I put it in my entertainment center that the fan won't be going on loudly like my old PS3 was. :(
 
uknowimright said:
anyone else think somewhere some Nintendo execs said to themselves "man we f'ed up"
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Unfortunately, the Wii U looks more and more like a Dreamcast 2, introduced a few months before two mighty competitors entered the market and crushed it.

The only thing helping Wii U sales is probably a steep price drop once the PS4 and XBox One are out, a price cut also got 3DS sales up again.

But the Wii U tablet probably costs them quite a bit to manufacture, so they can't lower prices enough (?).

Nintendo looks between a rock (Desktop/living room competition from Sony and Microsoft) and a hard place (Mobile competition from Android and Apple).
 
canyonblue737 said:
The Xbox One and PS4 use the exact same CPU and GPU... only real difference is the type of RAM which is a bit faster in the PS4 than Xbox One but same amount. Bottom line is they are so close that all the cross platform games will essentially be identical and the only advantage to PS4 will be with exclusives, but even then it remains to be demonstrated if the consumer will see any real difference.

The PS4 announcement was full of EXTREMELY vague descriptions of media like features which later, and I QUOTE FROM SONY'S CEO, were said to be "aspirational" of what the PS4 "hopes to do, sometime after launch." Needless to say Xbox One DESTROYS the PS4 in terms of non-gaming features, not even close.

The Wii U lacked the power of a Xbox 360 from 7 years ago. The Wii U had no real polished online gaming backbone. The Wii U's tablet doesn't even do multitouch and is gimicky and doesn't work well with the games. EA has dropped all support for the console. They are hardly selling ANY every month anymore. Within 1 year the Wii U won't even be sold anymore... mark my words it is the Dreamcast all over again, but worse.
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The Wii U is a lot more powerful than the Xbox 360, you're just letting bias cloud your vision. The Xbox is meant to be a game console not a set top box. MS are spreading themselves too thin, PS4 concentrates on games while Xbox concentrates mostly on TV experience. I have no preference to either before I get to actually use them but just check out the stock market for sony and MS right now and you can see clearly that MS have failed to impress and people are siding with Sony.
 
Retro maybe... Oh the 80's...

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shiseiryu1 said:
My only hope is that if I put it in my entertainment center that the fan won't be going on loudly like my old PS3 was. :(
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They did say in the announcement that the One will be 'near silent operation'. Just as well as that was the biggest problem with the 360, especially if you were playing off a disk - would be very loud!
 
shiseiryu1 said:
The PS4 is basically vaporware at this point; I can't believe they bothered to have a press conference that didn't show any hardware or give any specs.
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Why do people continuously insist on revamping the term 'vaporware'.

We know the specs, we know the features, we know roughly when they expect to release it, and they haven't passed that deadline. We don't know its appearance, but thats not exactly the most important aspect of a game console (in the PS3/360 gen has gone through multiple iterations)
 
drew0020 said:
The demo WOW'd me.

The voice control looked fantastic and snappy, tv overlays, fantasy sports and stats, and pin the browser to the right while still watching live action TV. The kinect sensor looks pretty impressive too.

I agree it does look hideous, but it will be hidden away beneath the projector.
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I liked the demo as well but in terms of these voice commands, I just don't like using them. I'm still bashful to use Siri in public places, but I do use it in the car and at home.
Talking to my videogame system just ends up being gimmicky. Sitting to my iMac and saying, "Mac turn on", "Mac play The Simms game"....etc, just feels odd to me.
 
Tiger8 said:
LOL, Wii U is nowhere near Wii! Wii was already selling like hotcakes the second it debut, Wii U is, for the lack of a better word, an epic fail!
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well even if one person enjoys the Wii U it can't be an epic fail. The Wii U is aimed at a different audience, not the CoD FPS lords of the controller.
 
is it just me or is this thing ugly? I sold my xbox 360 not too long ago. Gaming is not as fun to me as when I was younger. But if i do get back in, the PS4 is looking better to be honest. Especially since you can still play used games on it. Apparently on xbox one, each game will be tired to an account.
 
JayCee842 said:
This site has become the total opposite of Macrumors. What a shame.
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true yep but I still enjoy what it is turning into. Kind of your one stop shop for everything tech related. I still spend the same amount of time on MR each day as I always have (about 10 minutes)
 
iChrist said:
AppleTV will also be something you talk to and cloud based with new UI for cable guide. Just smaller box.

Just a taste of things to come.

:apple:
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don't think you can play games or have a rich experience like you do with Xbox One. Apple cannot all of a sudden take a "hobby" and create something to rival the Xbox environment - that is simply pie in the sky thinking. Apple is going to lose the living room, the Xbox One demo was very impressive.

I find it funny that many people can only pick on the aesthetics of the box. I'll take that as an admission that the rest of it is wickedly impressive. And I am a big Apple fan, but Microsoft has done a great job here.

Given a choice between Microsoft and Sony, I will go with Microsoft because it supports domestic job growth. Sony is quickly becoming nobody.
 
bugzii said:
well even if one person enjoys the Wii U it can't be an epic fail. The Wii U is aimed at a different audience, not the CoD FPS lords of the controller.
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That is true, but do they attract new customers? Mario and Zelda will please the existing customers, that's apparently not enough and the Wii U sequels of major Nintendo franchises aren't finished. The Wii U sales worldwide (and even in Japan, their home turf) are horrible:

http://bgr.com/2013/05/21/nintendo-wii-u-sales-analysis/

These are the cold numbers in Q1 2013, unfortunately, not rumors. I liked playing with Nintendo since the NES but it looks their time is up if they don't get their act together soon.

Wii U has new games coming too slowly in 2013 and third-party developers jumping ship because of low sales. Old chicken-egg problem between software and hardware sales. In 2014 they could get steamrolled by PS4/XBox One...
 
Haven't been gaming on consoles for a while, but this looks interesting. Will definitely try it out IRL when it's available.
 
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