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More on Mac OS X Tiger on April 15th

jayscheuerle said:
Hope springs eternal in these boards, eh?
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Actually, as I've posted above, I'm more inclined to think early June. If it does somehow come out in a month, I may just wait for the first point release or two before I make the switch from Panther.
 
daveL said:
Actually, as I've posted above, I'm more inclined to think early June. If it does somehow come out in a month, I may just wait for the first point release or two before I make the switch from Panther.
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If its not April, then I'm still holding out for a June 24th release. Why break the mold.
 
Think Secret just posted an article on build 8A414 - pretty much the same as AppleInsider, but with this tidbit, which I consider to be crucial;

Multiple sources also report witnessing at least one Tiger "wrap party" at One Infinite Loop earlier this month, and several members of the Tiger development team are presently on vacation, sources say, generally a sure-fire sign that their portion of development has been completed.
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That's a pretty damn specific thing to post without having reliable sources. I'm inclined to think that the April 1st/14th release schedule is correct.
 
Rootman said:
Thinksecret is reporting that members of the Tiger development team have gone on vacation.
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The vacation could be taken two ways. It could mean that the work on Tiger is done. Could also be that they are taking a short vacation prior to the final push to finish Tiger. Either way we will have the answer in a matter of weeks.
 
wdlove said:
The vacation could be taken two ways. It could mean that the work on Tiger is done. Could also be that they are taking a short vacation prior to the final push to finish Tiger. Either way we will have the answer in a matter of weeks.
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I think the short vacation would be a bad idea because I find that most people tend to become really lazy once they've got a bit of a respite. Then again, who knows how Jobs motivates the engineers.

However, the comment about a wrap party at the Apple campus seems to provide more towards the former possibility.
 
Punani said:
Then again, who knows how Jobs motivates the engineers.
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I found this interesting tidbit from a half-arsed google:

Jobs turned to an early Apple consultant, mechanical engineer David M. Kelley, to implement Esslinger's design. At first, Kelley worried that Jobs's demands - for instance, a tilt mechanism for the monitor - would be too difficult to pull off. ''You want to be the voice of reason,'' says Kelley. "But when I would say: 'Steve, that's going to be too expensive,' or, 'It can't be done,' his response was: 'You wimp.' He makes you feel like a small thinker." So Kelley and a team of six engineers worked around the clock to turn Esslinger's design into a mechanical reality.
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Punani said:
[talk receiever:all message:mad:"GREAT PARTY!!!"];
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I guess I'm not cool. What does your post mean?

Unless we are simply not seeing the latest builds in the dev seeds on ADC, I just can't fathom how there were project wrap-up parties earlier this month.

Between all this stuff, and the here-now-gone-tomorrow 970MP references, I still think there's some red herring somewhere in the mix. Only time will tell.
 
daveL said:
I guess I'm not cool. What does your post mean?

Unless we are simply not seeing the latest builds in the dev seeds on ADC, I just can't fathom how there were project wrap-up parties earlier this month.

Between all this stuff, and the here-now-gone-tomorrow 970MP references, I still think there's some red herring somewhere in the mix. Only time will tell.
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Oh, I was trying to make a joke regarding the wrap party. Since it's an Mac OS X party I thought it would be appropriate to talk in Objective-C messages.

Okay, yeah...I have a weird sense of humor.
 
Punani said:
Oh, I was trying to make a joke regarding the wrap party. Since it's an Mac OS X party I thought it would be appropriate to talk in Objective-C messages.

Okay, yeah...I have a weird sense of humor.
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No problem. As you can tell, I'm not an Objective C/C++ guy; assembler and C were my forte, when I was younger.
 
Amazon delivery estimate

I preorderd it on amazon, delivery estmate is:

Items not yet shipped:
Delivery estimate: April 12, 2005
1 of: Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger

Could this be another amazon leek?

EDIT: forgot to mention shipping, 2 day

I bet the 10th
 
daveL said:
IBetween all this stuff, and the here-now-gone-tomorrow 970MP references, I still think there's some red herring somewhere in the mix. Only time will tell.
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The Tiger release is the Red Herring. I predict that it will be announced by April 1 (if not sooner). But all the Tiger, CPU & other rumors are drawing attention from some really big things that are going to be announced in the same time frame.

I have no specific knowledge, but I'd be willing to bet that we are going to be "wowed" by Apple announcements (every couple of weeks) from now until WWDC-- then the really big stuff gets announced.

Apple has the big "mo" right now, they have a great public image, are the darlings if the financial community & a lot of attention by the business community.

Steve knows exactly how to milk this to maximum advantage-- and he will!
 
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While I think ThinkSecret is a creditable resource I have better ones, ADC and my membership. As a PowerBook user I can not even use this build because of issues plaguing all laptop users. ThinkSecret didn't even put this into their report. Also as many know the "Known Issues" section never includes the vast majority of bugs. Now because the issue with laptops is so bad I can not even install this build.

Now to prove my theory that Apple would never do this is to go and look back on the last ADC seeds for Jaguar (6C115) and Panther (7B85) both which do not have any known issues and as I recall in Panthers case the builds felt very stable starting 2 seeds from that final seed. Looking back on the Tiger Seed there are even more problems that ThinkSecret did not report.

Which brings me to my final point that has not been talked about. TIGER SERVER, which still has tons of problems even in the last seed that was seeded yesterday. Functionality that integrates the client and the server in some fields does not even work.

Take this as you wish.
 
Well, for what it's worth I just got off the phone with my reseller (a big multinational), who in turn spoke with his Apple rep this morning - they're being advised of late may/early June ship dates. I'm not sure Apple would tell out-right porkies, at least to their larger resellers...but I could be wrong...
 
manmurray said:
Well, for what it's worth I just got off the phone with my reseller (a big multinational), who in turn spoke with his Apple rep this morning - they're being advised of late may/early June ship dates. I'm not sure Apple would tell out-right porkies, at least to their larger resellers...but I could be wrong...
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Perhaps then Apple will simply be announcing pre-orders and firm ship dates in the coming weeks then...
 
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