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Next update will be: Moved back to iOS after two years /s 😝Spoiler: the next version of Android looks like it’s taking a lot of inspiration from Liquid Glass.
Next update will be: Moved back to iOS after two years /s 😝Spoiler: the next version of Android looks like it’s taking a lot of inspiration from Liquid Glass.
What you are getting in return is more tools, services and methods to collect even more data about you?Apple hoover up just as much data as Google. The difference is it's just anonymous user data for product development rather than ad profiling. One is clearly better than the other but still.
You can't use the internet without something somewhere tracking where you've been. It's been this way since browser cookies and what keeps it largely free at the point of use. It's not exactly ethical but thems the breaks.
And in Google's defence they don't hide their data collection and in return for the devils bargain you do get a whole suite of web apps and services. It's not like they're Meta who take your data and give you nothing constructive in return.
I bought an iphone 17 pro and just yesterday got my mother a pixel 9. it can do almost anything my iphone does, plus some perks.
I paid 250 bucks for the pixel, and 1350 for the iphone...
I too am considering moving back to android , especially after those subscriptions news
On a tablet or laptop I get it but do people actually use Adobe etc apps on a phone? I've subscribed to loads of productivity apps over the years but never anything I wanted to use on a phone display. About the only thing from the iPhone I can think of is Halide, but this is motivated by most Android phones baking in manual modes to their camera apps. (It's kind of hilarious Apple still selling a 'Pro' phone that doesn't even have shutter speed control)Anything worthwhile on software is going to have a subscription on either side. Trade off the pro level apps from Apple you're going to be paying a subscription to Adobe or others for equivalent level of software.
After 16 years on every (or alternate year) iPhone, I recently took the decision of moving everything to Google Cloud and Google Pixel.
The first reason was the painfully slow iCloud sync with files and photos,
the second being the behaviour of the staff at Apple Store, Saket (careless, rude, and undeniably ego-filled). Complained via email to Joz, he replied, but nothing further really happened.
The Pixel has a great camera, nice video boost features, and mostly smooth software. The device is quite slow as compared to iPhone, processing power slow, but the AI is crazy nice, and far ahead of others.
Now I know a lot of my fellow MacRumors readers won't be able to digest someone moving to another mobile operating system, and their comments always make me laugh.
Blindly accepting and praising any brand, no matter how irrational the fan-following is, slows down innovation and lets the others move forward.
PS: I am still using the M5 MacBook Pro, as there is nothing better.
Start a new Apple calendar event: plus button is at the top of the screen. Start a new reminder: plus button is at the bottom of the screen. Yep, Apple is super consistent.
5 year promise from Apple vs. 7 from Google and Samsung.
That feeling disappeared around 5 years ago. iOS is buggy, lags, eats through battery, and generally performs worse than any Android phone I have tried the last couple years.
Add the lack of customization and control over the OS where it forces you to do things Apple's way and it is the most user-hostile experience I have had in modern computing.
Also when I cross an international border, it turns off my roaming SIM. Very annoying when I want to use both SIMs all the time.
I also like Android for free premium YouTube because it's not worth paying for.
Apple does most of the heavy lifting for that one, not trusting its users to use a computing device like a computer. When I can remove Chess from a Mac and install my own icons and themes on an iPhone, I will reconsider Apple.
When I cross a border and the phone detects one of the lines is not roaming, it will turn off the roaming line. It's very annoying because I use both lines all the time. Two lines from two different countries.This is one about which I am really curious, as I have two active eSIMs and my last two weeks have had be in Tokyo. London, Zurich, Brussels, and tomorrow I spend the day in Barcelona, and I have never experienced this. Do you have both eSIMs set to allow roaming? Are your eSIMs from two different countries and companies? Any other information you can share about this behavior?
Nice.
Wonder what makes you spend so much time telling Apple users about all the things you like better.
I did not question in which forum you posted, but why you spend so much energy telling about people who use a system you do not like why it is inferior. As I said, I have zero interest in going to An Android forum to explain why I like iOS better. Not even on my radar.Um, isn't the name of this sub-forum "Alternatives to iOS"? One would think then that "all the things" are valid?
I will have to play with them a bit. I have several eSIMs on my device, and have had a mix of local and roaming eSIMs active as I moved around, but have not experienced this. I will try to make it happen. Thanks for the explanation.If you are a tourist and only have a home country SIM plus roaming SIMs, you won't have any problems. For example, if you use a home carrier plus a roaming SIM, the roaming line won't turn off until you return to the home country.
Idk I like Liquid Glass now tbh. I have an android as my main but Liquid Glass has grown on me.Welcome aboard! So many recent converts. I think Apple Intelligence and Liquid Glass are viewed as HUGE successes... to the Android community. 😉
Yeah I did that a long time ago. I did it when I switched to Android after the iPhone 4. I went to a Samsung galaxy S2. I do go back and forth and right now own an iPhone 16 pro and a Samsung galaxy S25 ultra which I prefer. It’s easy to move between if using third party. I also have a windows laptop, MacBook and an iPad. It’s good to do even if you have an iPhone and even all Apple devices. God forbid something happens with apples servers or if somehow they close and no longer exist.After 16 years on every (or alternate year) iPhone, I recently took the decision of moving everything to Google Cloud and Google Pixel.
The first reason was the painfully slow iCloud sync with files and photos, the second being the behaviour of the staff at Apple Store, Saket (careless, rude, and undeniably ego-filled). Complained via email to Joz, he replied, but nothing further really happened.
The Pixel has a great camera, nice video boost features, and mostly smooth software. The device is quite slow as compared to iPhone, processing power slow, but the AI is crazy nice, and far ahead of others.
Now I know a lot of my fellow MacRumors readers won't be able to digest someone moving to another mobile operating system, and their comments always make me laugh. Blindly accepting and praising any brand, no matter how irrational the fan-following is, slows down innovation and lets the others move forward.
PS: I am still using the M5 MacBook Pro, as there is nothing better.
I love your genuine, unbiased, detailed reply. I genuinely appreciate it. I also had an iPad Pro M4, an iPad mini and an Apple Watch Ultra 2, but I found use for them amongst my family members.That is awesome. Hope you enjoy it!
Have not experienced that, but I am glad you found something better for you.
Let us know your experiences at the Google store and/or with Google’s support and its equivalent of AppleCare+. Have not seen any people posting about how great they are, so I am genuinely curious.
Cool. They do have good image processing for their cameras. Personally prefer on device and private AI/data, but everyone has his/her own concerns.
You are right, it will be hard for many Apple Ecosystem users to understand giving that and the related privacy up, but you know what matters most to you, so that is great.
Just as is ignoring things for which there is no equivalent on the other side.
Are those those only two Apple devices and services you had - a MacBook Pro and an iPhone? If so, it is even easier to understand why you switched, as you gain little of the ecosystem benefit with only two devices. Hope you enjoy everything with your new phone.
I'm in an Android forum talking about Android. Why are you here?Given how terrible Apple’s products are, I am really curious, why are you here?
I mean why are we talking about phones on a Mac Computer site?I'm in an Android forum talking about Android. Why are you here?
But...but...you are in the "Alternatives to iOS" which means Android. You are spending a lot of energy telling people how much you do not like Android......just sayin......I did not question in which forum you posted, but why you spend so much energy telling about people who use a system you do not like why it is inferior. As I said, I have zero interest in going to An Android forum to explain why I like iOS better. Not even on my radar.
Now lets look at global smartphone sales........There should always be some preference for systems, don't get angry about it !
Google's smartphone doesn't even appear in the rankings despite the money spent on advertising. The important thing is to feel comfortable with what you use. Mac and iPhone users don't need convincing of anything.
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You are 100% correct. No one needs any convincing on what to use. Just use what works best for you and for me it is Android even though I own a Mac, iPhone and iPad's.There should always be some preference for systems, don't get angry about it !
Google's smartphone doesn't even appear in the rankings despite the money spent on advertising. The important thing is to feel comfortable with what you use. Mac and iPhone users don't need convincing of anything.
In my opinion Android has more beautiful apps and better designed. For example WhatsApp is way more beautiful on Android than on the iOS and so are some other apps.Anything worthwhile on software is going to have a subscription on either side. Trade off the pro level apps from Apple you're going to be paying a subscription to Adobe or others for equivalent level of software.
Actually with a Samsung tablet and Dex mode you can turn their tablets essentially into a Chromebook. That's what I like about my Galaxy Tab S10 plus.You can also turn your Android phone into a usable PC. You just need a monitor, display and keyboard.
Huawei also has pretty cool features.