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Next iPhone: A4 Processor, 256MB RAM, N90 PRO2, Translated Impressions

ThirteenXIII said:
Apple has more leaks than BPs Oil Spill :X

I like the new design however, looks very sleek and away from the previously designed iPhones.
I like the slim factor and the fact its not rounded on the back.
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Me too, but I bet it's gonna be a bit harder to pick up from a table.
 
StyxMaker said:
It seems to me that the seams that are getting so much negative attention may be expansion joints to keep the metal bands from bowing outward slightly as they help dissipate the heat from the chips.
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I doubt if that's the purpose. For the metal to expand that much, the phone would have to reach a temperature that would make it unusable.

If metal expanded that much at lower temperatures, you would see expansion relief systems in ordinary notebook computers (which run far hotter than smartphone handsets). That simply isn't the case. Heck, the aluminum engine block of your car gets hotter than that.
 
Honestly, as much as i love the new look of the iPhone, seeing them side by side, i like the curve of the 3G. Not crazy about the plastic back, but i like the curve. Still, i'm getting the "HD" as soon as it's humanly possible.
 
256mb of ram and the upcoming arrival of multitasking? Uh oh. HTC Desire with 512mb of ram all the way!
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
No. This is fact.
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Really cause this website I believe is called MAC RUMORS. Are we on the official Apple site? Steve Jobs has NEVER changed anything last minute because of leaks or someone came out early and spoiled his surprise.

TuffLuffJimmy said:
Not exactly. They just keep previous generations around, not different models. There's no evidence to suggest this line up will be different.
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Hmmm I do recall there being several different models of the iPod Touch and iPhone. (iPhone - 16GB/32GB white/black) (Touch - 8GB / 32GB / 64GB with the 32GB and 64GB having a the improved GPU specs).

I believe there is no evidence to support there won't be different models for this lineup.
 
Ohh, one more thing on 256MB and page refreshing. Even Apple kneepadder John Gruber has complained about the refreshing in Safari:

There’s one severe problem in Safari for iPad, though: memory crapping out. MobileSafari for iPhone has always allowed you to open up to eight pages at a time. It tries to keep them all truly open, in RAM, so that you can quickly switch between them. But when it runs out of memory it starts flushing some of the pages. It doesn’t forget the URLs for those pages, and, in recent versions, it saves a static thumbnail image of the rendered page, but when you switch back to those purged pages, MobileSafari must reload the page — thus, you must wait both for the contents of the page to download and for the page to actually render (which — the rendering — often takes longer than the downloading). It’s very noticeable. Switching between unpurged Safari pages is instantaneous. Switching to a purged page takes as long as opening it from scratch.

This purging problem got a lot better with the iPhone 3GS. The original iPhone and iPhone 3G only had 128 MB of RAM. The 3GS has 256. MobileSafari’s ability to keep more pages in memory is probably my single favorite aspect of the 3GS.

The iPad also has 256 MB of RAM. But, in my use, iPad’s Safari isn’t able to keep nearly as many pages open as I can on my 3GS. In fact, sometimes it seems I can only have one, and every page I switch to gets completely reloaded. This is more than just annoying — it can lead to data loss if you have unsubmitted form data sitting in an “open” iPad Safari page. I’ve run into this posting items to DF from the iPad — my posting interface is a web page form. When I want to link to the current page, I invoke a bookmarklet which opens a new page with the title and URL fields of the posting form set to the title and URL of the page from which I invoked the bookmarklet. Often, though, I want to switch back to the page I’m linking to copy another URL or a bit of text to quote. Twice so far, when going back to the posting form, it’s been purged and must reload from scratch — in which case I lose anything I’ve already written. I never run into this problem on my iPhone 3GS when switching between just two open Safari pages.

The problem is also severe for AJAX web apps, which tend not to be designed with full page refreshes in mind.

I hope this can be improved significantly in an iPad software update, but I worry that it’s endemic — that because the iPad screen is so much larger than the iPhone’s, that MobileSafari must allocate significantly more memory per page for the framebuffers. 256 MB of RAM simply may not be enough for MobileSafari to keep more than two or three pages in memory. If so, Apple really needs to consider some sort of caching or serialization scheme rather than completely flushing away purged pages.
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http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/the_ipad
 
Sweetbike40 said:
Honestly, as much as i love the new look of the iPhone, seeing them side by side, i like the curve of the 3G. Not crazy about the plastic back, but i like the curve. Still, i'm getting the "HD" as soon as it's humanly possible.
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The 3G looks so "last decade".

Good move by Apple - within a month of intro the trendy people will be too embarrassed to be seen using the "retro" 3G model, and will pay the fee to upgrade to the current one. Prices for 1G/2G/3G models on eBay will plumment to match Rokr prices.
 
brguitarist said:
Why are we assuming it'll be called iPhone 4G?
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Yeah, the first iPhone was not called 1G, and the second one was called 3G... makes no sense, the only reason it was called like that was because the second generation iPhone had access to the 3G network. The new iPhone would be the fourth iPhone, which would match the 4G name, however, the "G" would sort of refer to the type of network and not to the phone generation. I say they should call it "iPhone 4".

I think 3G and 3GS were inconsistent names, "S for Speed" will probably apply to every new iPhone, it's not a reason to add the S tag to all of them.
 
borntomac448 said:
I sure hope that this is not the final design or Android, here I come.
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really dude? REALLY?

your entire basis for buying a phone... a freaking SMART phone... is how the case looks?

that is really... limited.

if this thing hauls ass... i could really care less what it looks like. it just has to work cool.

i guess i really don't understand what difference the looks make. it's a slab of metal and glass, used for making calls. what more do you want it to be?

oh right... the ultimate expression of your (ahem) personal style and design sense. sure, that makes sense.

you're lucky that your own personal, unique sense of beauty has been reflected in a mass-produced commodity. how convenient to have such common taste. :rolleyes:

"oh geez, they changed the scrollbars in osx! Windows, here i come!"
 
Auchron said:
Hmmm I do recall there being several different models of the iPod Touch and iPhone. (iPhone - 16GB/32GB white/black) (Touch - 8GB / 32GB / 64GB with the 32GB and 64GB having a the improved GPU specs).

I believe there is no evidence to support there won't be different models for this lineup.
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The 8GB iPod touch is basically the 2nd generation model. The 16GB and 32GB models are the 3rd generation technology, with faster CPU and graphics, no different between the latter two apart from storage capacity.

Same deal with the iPhone. The 8GB phone is the 3G, the 16GB and 32GB phones are 3GS. Same deal, no difference between the latter two apart from storage.

Apple is indeed keeping the previous generation model around (with smaller storage capacity) as the bargain entry-level offering.
 
Auchron said:
Really cause this website I believe is called MAC RUMORS. Are we on the official Apple site? Steve Jobs has NEVER changed anything last minute because of leaks or someone came out early and spoiled his surprise.
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There is no way in hell Apple would waste all that money (it's a publicly traded company owned by the stock holders) just because Steve has pride issues.
It's not just a rumor because it's a real iPhone! Have you read the articles lately about Steam for Mac? That's very real even though it's on MacRumors. The new iPhone body was first presented by Gizmodo anyway, not MacRumors.



Hmmm I do recall there being several different models of the iPod Touch and iPhone. (iPhone - 16GB/32GB white/black) (Touch - 8GB / 32GB / 64GB with the 32GB and 64GB having a the improved GPU specs).
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The lower level iPod touch is just the previous generation iPod touch. Same with the iPhone 3G and 3GS.

I believe there is no evidence to support there won't be different models for this lineup.
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It's impossible to prove the flying spaghetti monster or god don't exist. The burden of proof is on those who argue they do exist.
 
zacman said:
The iPad already crawls when you use Mobile Safari with HTML5 pages because it lacks RAM. So how does Apple want to get people used to HTML5 that way?
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That's why Apple has the RDF - people won't notice, because the RDF makes them think that HTML5 is far better than anything else. ;)
 
baryon said:
Yeah, the first iPhone was not called 1G, and the second one was called 3G... makes no sense, the only reason it was called like that was because the second generation iPhone had access to the 3G network. The new iPhone would be the fourth iPhone, which would match the 4G name, however, the "G" would sort of refer to the type of network and not to the phone generation. I say they should call it "iPhone 4".

I think 3G and 3GS were inconsistent names, "S for Speed" will probably apply to every new iPhone, it's not a reason to add the S tag to all of them.
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Based on the photos of the leaked prototype, it looks like Apple will call it "iPhone". My guess is that their support documents will describe it as "iPhone (Mid 2010)" or something very similar.
 
cvaldes said:
Based on the photos of the leaked prototype, it looks like Apple will call it "iPhone". My guess is that their support documents will describe it as "iPhone (Mid 2010)" or something very similar.
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I'm having a hard time finding a 3G written anywhere on my iPhone or a 3GS written on any 3GS.
 
Ugh, so when will 512 Not be enough for you? Not everyone is chasing the latest hardware constantly.. So if they jump to 512... people will code for that and leave all those millions with a 2g, 3G or 3GS further down the line... You'll end up with a two tiered dev platform... Which is almost happening as it is.

I bet someone could code a browser that stores 100 pages... It just hasn't happened yet... Some people are never happy
 
no evidence

There is no evidence AT ALL that this is the only iPhone coming. this could EASILY be a base model design, for $99 or free. Then there could be an HD or something with heck, even more resolution, an 8mp camera, 512 MB ram, a gig for all I know, for god's sake, this is MAC RUMOURS! Wait for WWDC.
 
Should I switch to Android?

OK 256 RAM only? I hope this is a prank from Steve Jobs. And at the event he shows something way better. The only complaints is the RAM and the screen size. I want the screen to have a 3.7 inch, and RAM should be atleast 512, if these rumors are true than I guess goodbye iPhone welcome to Android, someone let me know. But if the screen size didn't change but it has 512 of RAM than I'll stick to iPhone.
Should I stick with iPhone or move to Android?
and if this is true than :apple: SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Cydiaisaweseom said:
OK 256 RAM only? I hope this is a prank from Steve Jobs. And at the event he shows something way better. The only complaints is the RAM and the screen size. I want the screen to have a 3.7 inch, and RAM should be atleast 512, if these rumors are true than I guess goodbye iPhone welcome to Android, someone let me know. But if the screen size didn't change but it has 512 of RAM than I'll stick to iPhone.
Should I stick with iPhone or move to Android?
and if this is true than :apple: SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Again, chill, wait for WWDC, and remember, its a PHONE!
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
I'm having a hard time finding a 3G written anywhere on my iPhone or a 3GS written on any 3GS.
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It's on the box and all their marketing materials.

I suppose there's an argument that the imprinting on the actual phone doesn't indicate what the marketing folks will call it. I doubt if they'll call it "iPhone 4" or "iPhone 4G" though. The name "iPhone HD" has been batted around, we'll see about that. In the end, it really doesn't matter, it's this year's iPhone.
 
mimeArtist said:
Ugh, so when will 512 Not be enough for you? Not everyone is chasing the latest hardware constantly.. So if they jump to 512... people will code for that and leave all those millions with a 2g, 3G or 3GS further down the line... You'll end up with a two tiered dev platform... Which is almost happening as it is.
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Almost? It IS happening with 4.0. The original iPhone cannot run 4.0 at all. It runs on the 3G with a reduced feature set.

So at some point in the future the line will be drawn at 512mb and those systems below that (currently everything) will be left behind. So wanting a more future proof iPhone with 512 mb now is justifiable.
 
Apple

Why give you 512MB RAM, 5mp camera, and duo flash this year, if I can give them next year one new feature every year? I need them to buy my product every year. At least, I can buy iphone 4g this year .. yeah!!!!!
 
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