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You do have to ask why Apple continues to milk customers with thick bezel phones while competitors are offering full screen phones even in their low-end models.
Seriously. All that bezel. It's time for that to go. Even a budget iPhone should have the bezel-less design.
 
idk, looks kinda sweet actually. I'm itching for something with an LCD screen that's smaller than the 11. This might be just what the doctor ordered.
 
I hope the name iPhone 9 isn't correct. Marketing wise, why would a customer even look at an iPhone 9 when the current phone is an iPhone 11. I think most people (not on here) just look at the name and not specs.

Some ppl hate the new design, they don’t want face ID, a Notch, always there homebar and a thicker/heavier/longer phone.

Will they ever create something new for a smaller form factor and quit milking the iPhone 6? Enough already! Cook is stingier with new tooling than he is with employee working conditions in China. It was already showing its age since the iPhone 7, where the ONLY change was the courageous headphone jack removal.

To all apologists out there: no, just because it still sells, and just because it's meant to be the "budget" option does NOT excuse this level of expedient laziness and complacency. It's still Apple, for crying out loud.

I wonder if Dieter Bonn would call that a "parts-bin" phone and not "the best iPhone for most people".

the only change to iPhone 7 was removal of the jack?? Uhhhh there was a new home button, water resistance, more accurate colors for the screen, and let’s not forget the beautiful jet black finish.
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0.5mm thicker?? Ouch.
 
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Disappointed to hear that it will increase in thickness. I was hoping the back was going to be plastic like the 5c and thus making it thinner and lighter and calling it “iPhone Air”
 
Disappointed to hear that it will increase in thickness. I was hoping the back was going to be plastic like the 5c and thus making it thinner and lighter and calling it “iPhone Air”

The plastic iPhone 5c was heavier and thicker than the iPhone 5 and 5S.

If the SE2 is thicker, it's likely due to a larger battery.
 
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I hope the name iPhone 9 isn't correct. Marketing wise, why would a customer even look at an iPhone 9 when the current phone is an iPhone 11. I think most people (not on here) just look at the name and not specs.

When you have a limited budget, you'll look at all options available. That's like faulting Apple for continuing to sell the 8/8 Plus when the XR and 11, 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max exist.
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Some ppl hate the new design, they don’t want face ID, a Notch, always there homebar and a thicker/heavier/longer phone.



the only change to iPhone 7 was removal of the jack?? Uhhhh there was a new home button, water resistance, more accurate colors for the screen, and let’s not forget the beautiful jet black finish.
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0.5mm thicker?? Ouch.

I know people love calling the 7/8 design a copy of the 6/6s but I just don't see it. Same shape, yes, but the design is obviously different (and better). I agree with you. If phone shape is the basis, we might as well include the X, XR, XS, XS Max, 11, 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max in that list.
 
Seriously. All that bezel. It's time for that to go. Even a budget iPhone should have the bezel-less design.

What exactly does Apple manufacture in their iPhone that’s considered ‘budget’? [Budget doesn’t exist in that aspect]. I think you mean entry-level iPhone.

Also, I suspect that bezels really aren’t that big of a deal for most, I’d say price/form factor outweigh bezels any day. How many consumers are you aware of that actually complain about bezels outside tech sites? I’m guessing not that many.
 
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What exactly does Apple manufacture in their iPhone that’s considered ‘budget’? [Budget doesn’t exist in that aspect]. I think you mean entry-level iPhone.

Also, I suspect that bezels really aren’t that big of a deal for most, I’d say price/form factor outweigh bezels any day. How many consumers are you aware of that actually complain about bezels outside tech sites? I’m guessing not that many.
Okay. Entry-level. Whatever. I knew that someone would have a problem with that word. You knew what I meant. Budget is a word that people use for less expensive items. But, whatever. You're right.
Your feelings about what people think about bezels are your own. People seem to like big screens. The demand for them has greatly increased over the past several years. The bezel-less design gives the user a bigger screen. A lot of people don't think about the technology that makes the phone work, or the screen bigger. Plus, that bezel just plain looks dated. Forget the edge and the back. That has been the look of the iPhone since the beginning.
But you know what...you are absolutely right. Nobody cares if their phone looks old. Or should I say outdated?
 
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OnLeaks expects the iPhone 9 to be 7.8mm thick, which would be 0.5mm thicker than the iPhone 8, while the height and width of the device will supposedly be virtually identical to the iPhone 8

Sounds like a bigger battery confirmed. Add this to the efficiency of A13 and we have a significant improvement in that department. Also space to accommodate a different camera module.
 
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I'd rather call it the iPhone 6SSSS
Pronounced "Sixes-ss-ss-ss."

We never got a 7S, they went right to 8 in the next year. Calling it iPhone 9 hurts the status of the tween girls who want it (trust me, I just asked one). Maybe they can call it iPhone J or some other random letter.
 
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Sounds like a bigger battery confirmed. Add this to the efficiency of A13 and we have a significant improvement in that department. Also space to accommodate a different camera module.
I'm very glad to hear this. I hope it also keeps the glass back with wireless charging possible.
 
Interesting, where are all the people that were complaining about big for heads and chins on the Pixel and other Android devices. I guess when Apple does it it's ok
This isn’t anything near a flagship device and yeah, Apple’s software is a lot better.
 
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About those bezels. You know, some people would prefer it very much to stay under the radar without drawing unnecessary attention to themselves while enjoying the premium performance and camera capabilities which I’m sure it will have.

Not everyone buys tech for the looks and status.
 
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I personally would expect this budget phone to bring back the 5c's plastic back. If they are keeping the 8 in the lineup, the best way to visually differentiate on materials is for the budget phone to choose plastic

And maybe it further reduce costs? I dunno about that. I imagine they can make 8 shells for nearly nothing at this point whereas new tooling for plastic backs etc would have to cost something.
 
The plastic iPhone 5c was heavier and thicker than the iPhone 5 and 5S.

If the SE2 is thicker, it's likely due to a larger battery.

A plastic back will be a lot lighter than the glass back of the iPhone 8. Even then, a larger battery will negate any weight loss from the plastic back.
 
A plastic back will be a lot lighter than the glass back of the iPhone 8. Even then, a larger battery will negate any weight loss from the plastic back.

A plastic back is a bad idea because it adds weight, assuming you want to match the strength of aluminum and glass.

iPhone 5 = 112g
iPhone 5c = 132g

You need 20g of plastic, just to match the strength of aluminum.

iPhone 7 = 138g
iPhone 8 = 148g

The glass back added 10g for iPhone 8.
 
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(on the plastic back of the 5c: the 5c was my favorite iPhone, and part of that was because of the grippy plastic and that it was slightly heavier than the 5S)

So, this confuses me a little. I feel the original SE was a budget phone...I used to think Apple didn't make budget phones, and they don't, but they had an opportunity to use existing parts, existing manufacturing tools, existing chip, everything, with some engineering to put the new chip into the old body, and produce a phone with less overhead. If memory serves, at the time they were also trying to crack the India market, and supposedly that market was price-sensitive. It all made sense. And along the way (but coincidentally), they made a portion of their users that liked small phones happy.

Now, I expected this to be a spiritual successor to the SE. Exactly the same chassis as the 8, with an A13. I even expected it to still have 3D Touch. And I was hoping for a $399 or $449 sort of price. If it's thicker, then there is more machining that needs to be upgraded, perhaps more other stuff inside that needs to be reengineered? That doesn't make sense to me, unless I'm just flat wrong on the idea behind the SE. That DOES sound more like a new iPhone 9...and perhaps that makes this an $700 phone rather than a $400 phone? I don't know.

I'm somewhat bummed by this. An "SE 2" with an A13 chip in an iPhone 8 body and a low price tag would have been great. I was one of those that didn't like the size jump from the 5 to the 6, and I was happy for the SE, but I don't think I'm as married to that now as I once was.
 
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