Over Half of Prospective iPhone X Buyers Surveyed Plan to Choose 256GB Storage

[Pilgrim1099]

Ah, the Jitterbug phone will start looking real good. Seriously 256GB is overkill already. That is why my MBP has. 512 is just comical for 99% of the population. Apple needs to find a different way to justify price hikes going forward. Apple is really straddling the edge here.

128 is good enough for the most part on the iPhone but if it's 256 the customers are looking for, then it must be game and video related. I shot a 3 minute video of me fencing another person in class for practice/training and that clip took up close to over 300 MB in size on my 64 gb iPhone SE. I had to compress it down to 90 MB with a 3rd party app.

256-512 and up would be iPad territory which I can understand but for a phone is a bit ridiculous. If people want to use iPhone for long video shoots or short film, they're better off storing the clips on an external hard drive rather than internally. I don't edit video for a living but I believe editing a video or film straight from an external drive makes a lot of sense when using a desktop for this kind of thing.

My SE has 64 GB in storage and it still has enough space for me to use up.

 

[CC77]

I suppose a standard Cordless Telephone is 'fake' wireless as well.

That's a bad analogy, because a cordless (landline) phone still works as a phone when you take it off the base. It does its function -- to be a landline phone -- wirelessly. Wireless charging doesn't continue to charge your phone once you pick it up.

 

[mrwuf]

When I bought my 7, I wanted a 64GB to match what I had from the prior phone. Nope had to pay that extra $100 for the 128GB. now that I’m good with 128GB, nope I’d have to go for the 256 should I decide to go for the X. Apple knows most will not want to go to a lower capacity than their previous phone, and knows just exactly how to squeeze that extra $100 (now $150) out of those people.

I’m sitting this one out.

Totally agree with you on Apple’s tactics. I paid extra for 128 on 7 Plus and was concerned about getting a 64 GB X. But decided to try out 8 with only 64 GB until I can get a X. It turns out once I turned on iCloud and filled up my 7 Plus with 4K video to put it under storage pressure, I almost got under 64 GB (ie it offloaded enough pics). Once I finally switched to the 8, I’m only using about 30 GB, and 3 of that is Messages that I can offload once they finish iCloud Messages sync.

I think most people will probably be fine with 64 if they get iCloud. At $3/mo, it’s way cheaper than the extra for increased storage, especially since I upgrade every year.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Also, we don't want a 4" phone, we want a 4.7" display in a phone the same size as an SE.

For some that’s true, but how many is up for debate.

I see at least 3 groupings of buyers wrt why they prefer the SE over larger phones. Some like the physical size (holding it, fit in pocket), some like the 4” screen size because of one-handed usability and some prefer it because it’s the least expensive.

Only those in the first group would be potential buyers for a X-style SE, and many of them would be turned off by the likely $899-ish price. And it would still be taller than the current SE, due to the aspect ratio.

imo, a new X-style SE would have very small demand, and might account for as little as 1% in the overall mix of sold product (if available).

I believe there is a 0% chance of Apple ever introducing it.

 

[ajfahey]

I don't know why the bothered with the lower capacity. Big pixel cameras need more storage, not less.

 

[TimbersESQ]

That's just dumb. I'm guessing you have no engineering background at all. You simply can't have wireless power where you can magically beam electricity across the room in an safe and efficient manner.

I'm not an engineer, but I'm pretty sure Tesla was able to do this way back when.

 

[PickUrPoison]

It's bull crap that Apple even makes that an offering. Such a technically advanced phone, that costs over $1,000 with only 64gb is an absolute joke. To me it's the equivalent of Ferrari putting a 115HP motor in the base model of their Enzo.

Nearly half of those surveyed plan to purchase 64, not 256. I could see Apple moving to 128/512 next year, assuming NAND prices come back down. (Is 512 possible with the same number of chips as 256?)

But for those who don’t take much, if any, video; don’t download videos; and for businesses, who many times buy the lowest storage capacity; 64GB seems to be plenty.

Your needs are yours—you’re just wrong when you think everyone needs/wants the same thing that you do.

 

[dcdandan]

Actually, that's not unsensible:

If you stream your media, don't play many games, don't shoot movies (i.e. you basically want a phone) 64GB is more than enough.

If you download your media and/or install lots of games and/or shoot movies you'll easily chew through 128GB.

(Or, get an Android phone with a SD card slot...)[/QUOTE]



if this if that, if this and that well DUH not everyone has unlimited internet, not everyone want to stream, not everywhere has the fastest internet

 

[PickUrPoison]

We are all rich people who can afford a 1K iPhone. Where some of us struggle to pay our monthly bills, yet we will get the iPhone 10 because we must. Thanks Apple for putting us in debt more.....Thank you! LOL

In the US and many other countries, you don’t have to be “rich” to afford an iPhone X ($50/month for a couple of years in the US). But if it’s a struggle, probably the 6S at $20/month is a smarter move.

 

[rafark]

Have to admit I'm surprised about the breakdown for most appealing feature. Wireless charging to me is sort of meh since you still have to put the phone in a particular/specific spot, which itself is wired to an outlet. Happy to take it, I guess, but not something that's especially bothered me as "a problem" with the phones I've owned for the last 10 years.

To me it's the very large screen is a relatively compact body that's most appealing.

What? I find wireless charging amazing, I'm very exulted about it and still can believe how they manage to charge the phone without physically plug in it to a cable.

I hate wired chargers, I break about one a month, it's frustrating. The whole idea of getting rid of that crap and just be able to put down the phone in the table for it to charge has me very very exited, I can't wait to see it with my own eyes.

 

[mj1108]

I don't know why the bothered with the lower capacity. Big pixel cameras need more storage, not less.

I'm guessing they needed to hit the $999 price point.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Then you didn't spend very much time on those very forums right here on MR when the newest MBP"s came out and especially the ones with the TB. The hue and cry was as loud and furious as I have ever seen in all my years here on MR.

Yes, the outcry on MR was deafening. But Apple sold more than ever before iirc.

30 or 40 MR forum posters screaming at the top of their lungs means nothing, and most complaining was done by those who had no intention to buy, imo. Most probably didn’t even spend 15 minutes testing them out before decrying the “emoji bar,” short keyboard travel, or the lack of ports and need for “dongles.”

Meanwhile actual users loved them, especially those who transported them between work and home, having a dock or port rep at both locations, as well as those that traveled heavily with them.

Change is difficult, nearly impossible for some, plus there are a few, very self-centered users who seem to think that Apple owes them the computer of their dreams, ideal for their owns wants, use case and budget.

Yes, Apple isn’t perfect and sometimes takes forever to re-vector after a mistake—MacPro cylinder anyone?—but much more often they get it right. And yes, I wish they’d dedicate more resources to the MacOS side of the house. But that’s not where they’re making they’re real money nowadays.

They do what they think is best for shareholders, and have little agenda outside of that.

 

[freezelighter]

I can't believe SE is only 3%.
We all want them.

 

[curtvaughan]

All the complaining about price and now the majority will be getting the iPhone X and the most expensive model. So the answer is , YES, people will pay just about anything for animated poop.

That would only be the majority of people buying an iPhone at all this year - someone should run a survey of current iPhone users who don't plan to buy new phones this year, and ask them why not. A large chunk still prefer having phone jacks, like touch id, and prefer to pay less than $1000 for a phone.

 

[Jsameds]

I can't believe SE is only 3%.
We all want them.

This is a September 2017 poll, the SE has been out since March 2016. Everyone who wants one already has one.

If SE 2 was a thing I think we can both agree it'd be a hella lot more than 3%

 

[curtvaughan]

Sure 128 MB would be fantastic, but what I’m really after is a 640 kB model.

Hehe.. the first Macs in 1984 had 128 KB, expandable to a whopping 512 KB. Of course, that looked like a lot compared to the PDP 11 I was working with around 1980, which had 16 KB and was roughly the size of a small refrigerator. We splurged on an extra 16 KB a year later. The first iPhones came with 4 or 8 GB as options.

 

[mrklaw]

Weird the iPhone X isn’t higher. You woulda though with Iphone 8 demand down it would be holding out for x.

there is a natural limit in how many people upgrade to the newest phone each year. Others will always be updated to 1-2 year older phones at lower price points.

The question for me is how this compares to last year. Is 8 + 8plus + X a larger proportion than last years 7 & &+ ? That would show a YoY increase.

 

[curtvaughan]

You are definitely correct. There was quite an uproar. That said, as a general rule, I don't see nearly as much griping about desktop, laptop, or even iPad, pricing as I do iPhone pricing. The idea that "it's just a phone" is absurd. In my mind it all comes down to the ridiculous belief some people have that they need a new phone every year. There's no other piece of technology that people upgrade annually. Because so many people have this idea that a perfectly good phone must be replaced every year, they also want it cheap and complain about pricing.

I think the yearly replacement habit with smart phones began to be more common with the demise of the user replaceable battery. Though batteries as a whole seem to be lasting a bit longer - partially due to more efficient software - they still suffer from significant degrading after a year or so. When all one had to do was purchase a new battery for 20 or 30 bucks after a year or so there was much less motivation to buy a new phone. Of course, you can still have Apple replace your phone battery for $80, but that's inconvenient and most will just opt for a new device. When Apple started the trend with the introduction of the iPhone, you can bet the other smart phone manufacturers were paying attention. Now nearly all top line phones have non-user replaceable batteries. I have both an iPhone (6s Plus) and an Android (LG V20). I bought the V20 for two reasons - a great superb sound system with headphone jack, and a user replaceable battery. The iPhone seems to have slightly better battery life, partially because I think iOS is more efficient than Android, but there is comfort in knowing new power for the V20 is only $20 away. The iPads and laptops have much larger capacity batteries, so can generally go a few years before replacement is necessary.

 

[McTool]

Have to admit I'm surprised about the breakdown for most appealing feature. Wireless charging to me is sort of meh since you still have to put the phone in a particular/specific spot, which itself is wired to an outlet. Happy to take it, I guess, but not something that's especially bothered me as "a problem" with the phones I've owned for the last 10 years.

To me it's the very large screen is a relatively compact body that's most appealing.

There is no wire going from the phone to the, as you say it, particular/specific spot so therefore it is wireless.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Well.. the same happened for 3D as well didn't it.... Now it's no more in with TV manufactures... You may even say, AR may go the same way...

Its cool while it lasts.... but i never expect it to be big, until there is proof worldwide,, not just a few million here and there. Pokemon was more of a better storm in a few months, but that was more of a huge rush to play..... then died....

AR is more like slowly seeping out..... But i still expect it to die anyway, Too early to tell

I recall 3D ... not just in TVs but first in dual cameras with the LG Optimus 3D /3D Max

http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_3d_max_p720-4562.php

Hehehe even the camera arrangement is now becoming a standard:
http://m.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?...3d-max-p720/gal/gsmarena_006.jpg&idPhone=4562

I do feel AR will adapt and adjust over time just like the core technology of 3D which was the cameras themselves. Sure we don’t use the software in the same way but dual cameras are now the norm on ALL top end smartphones to give us optical zoom, of sorts. I still prefer a thin oil film that can be manipulated with tiny electrode and electricity passing through it to give a more concave curve for true optical zoom. Feasibility may not have worked but still the concept should’ve further been observed.

AR has been around for at least 5yrs now ... first with Wikitude in the BlaclBerry Bold 9970/9980 but in a very lame way used in BBM to find BBM users that are signed in and location. Worked with elevation too. Yet paired what we’ll see in gaming with iOS and what Google will do for maps and ads.

Yet the actual real world comfort use case outside of games on a smartphone doesn’t quite work wel with AR (e.g. Gmaps and ads on walls of buildings street signs, bus stop apparatuses etc.

Remember Ericsson started and invented Bluetooth and created the first phones (T-36, T-39, T-28/World gsm phones) and headsets using this technology. Less than 8mths later Motorola jumped on the scene with 3 BT headsets; all gear for calls only. Do any of you recall just how nutty we thought people where in public that seemingly talked to themselves? That was the year 2000, 17yrs ago!!!

Now we swear by Bluetooth headsets and Bluetooth Stereo headphones! I’ve been using Bluetooth since he beginning, it’s onky 2yrs older than my son is lol.

I think AR will have its best run for desktop and laptop users while stationary, potentially supplanting the home TV, maybe but that’s still 15yrs away in my humble opinion. iOS will like Android paves the roots evolve to glasses. Yes I’ve had a big very intellectual and engaging convo with a forums member here with pros and cons but I still feel iOS and Androids best expressions of evolution is: embedded, complete hands-free use (glasses), and on wrist ... maybe a forth in a drone/robotic AI companion (real life Tweeki!)

 

[Hater]

You're describing iTunes Match, like, verbatim

iTunes Match uploads everything to iCloud, I want all of my data, photos, music, backups etc stores -locally- and then streamed from said central location to my devices, I definitely don't want an Apple Music membership and for Apple to have a copy of all of my music...
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I'm not an engineer, but I'm pretty sure Tesla was able to do this way back when.

Well yeah but there's a small problem with it... Have you ever played Red Alert?

 

[alexjholland]

'Nearly half of all iPhone X users will choose 64GB storage'.

- Can you tell I'm a journalist too?

 

[rikscha]

Of course...why does the 64GB model even exist on a phone that costs 1K?

Exactly for that reason, people will be forced to take the even more expensive option now.

 

[KeithJenner]

A couple of observations:

Firstly, people who plan on buying a 64gb seem to see this as a sign that their orders will be much easier than the 256gb. I don't see that this poll can be taken that way at all. The difference isn't massive (57/43) and could easily be countered by Apple's production split. On the day it could go either way.

Wireless charging - This is a little way down my list of what appeals about the iPhone X, but it's certainly a factor. When new it won't make too much difference, as the battery should easily last the day. In fact, I will probably buy a new stand to charge it on, but I keep my phones for a few years. Currently, I plug my iPhone 6 in at work, but I often forget to do so. It's not rare for me to pick up my phone to realise that it's just been sitting there not charging for the last couple of hours. When the X gets to that situation, I am far more likely to remember to put it on the pad.

Storage - I currently have 64gb, which is plenty most of the time. However, there are a few times a year where there is a combination of factors that mean it isn't. That is when I go away. I can't rely on getting decent internet or wi-fi, sometimes for a few days at a time, so I want to download some music to have on device, but I'm also taking lots of pictures and video, which isn't necessarily getting uploaded to iCloud. I sometimes have to delete some of the music off, as the storage gets full. 128gb would probably do it, but with just 64gb, I run into problems a few times a year. It will be even worse with the X due to the increased video size. Getting 256gb will mean I can sync some films as well to give me the option of watching them on the phone or my iPad.

Neither of these will apply to everyone, and this thread displays one of MacRumours forums great issues, that of people looking at their own situation and assuming everyone else is in the same position. 64gb is fine for many, but for others it isn't. People need to decide on what is best for them.

 

[Matt Leaf]

As much as I want one of these I can't justify the price. I'm hanging out for an X SE.

Maybe 7 internals, even a 7 camera would do. 64gb. And obviously would need a Bionic chip for Face ID.

True depth, fullscreen and hopefully waterproofing on an SE would be amazing.