There is no new PlayStation every year. If you buy one you can be sure to get the next years the latest and greatest titles. Not so with apple.
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Yep. Other than the Bethesda acquisition and now Blizzard, Microsoft has been VERY BAD. Halo has been destroyed since 4. Where is Gears? What other exclusives does Xbox have? They are hurting. 2013 launch hurt them significantly.
macOS Sonoma works with a 2017 iMac Pro. That about as long as a console generation of support. The iPhone XR has iOS 17 support. What do you expect Apple to ask people to return their XR so they can plop in a new SOC with Ray tracing? I am not sure what support you are discussing that isn’t there.
As I said the hardware is FINALLY good. This is why we have games exclusive to PS5 with better hardware. To play Starfield well on PC you need a more recent GPU. So I’m not sure what “support” you are referring to.
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- macOS: 9+ years
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PlayStation's only expertise is for games and possibly streaming services.
Exactly. Apple is pushing the envelope on the new devices into the gaming market because somewhere their board of directors saw the profits game companies and publishers are raking in. Apple now wants a piece of the pie. But they already have a HUGE chunk of the mobile gaming market. They will not over take Nintendo. No one out Nintendo’s Nintendo. No one out pizzas the hut.
Apple hasn’t the time to establish first party titles the likes of Sony , Microsoft , Valve and Nintendo.
They don’t have Mario and Yoshi, they don’t have Spider Man , and Kratos. They don’t have Master Chief or Sonic.
Apple has nothing. At the very best Apple will be used as a gateway to such things. It would take a decade MINIMUM for Apple to develop its own iconic character and universe.
And in a world CLOGGED TO THE *******S TOP of universes for us to enjoy. Apple has a long shlog to even set at the top of that toilet.
I hope, a wish Apple to succeed, please don’t miss interpret my words. I want Apple to be the top Computer maker, top mobile device manufacturer. Because their devices elevate us. They spend so much time and effort making sure we’re well entertained and well equipped for any task where they and their environment are required. But without competition Apple will end up the way they were in the 90s. Stagnant.
All of this will take time.
True. They have a longish life span. But not every feature is available or works as intended on the older hardware.
With a PS5 or Xbox One. Every game made from day one to day 10,000 works. It just works.
And if Apple creates a new hardware revision next year that pushed the capabilities to the limit you will 100% see the previous models running the newest software, but completely incapable of running the new more demanding titles.
This is the argument being made.
There is no guarantee the next Apple phone will be the wall that blocks older phones ( which are still running the same OS) to incapable of running.
I bought my playstation 4 on 2013. It runs great today as 10 years ago. And it can play residential evil 8 fine.
How many iPhone 5s (2013 iPhone) work today ? the same for iPad air 1 ?
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Exactly. Apple doesn’t even DARE support the ancient models now. The PS4 was a modern marvel of gaming hardware. People buy these devices ONCE. And get a decade or more out of them.
Why on earth would they send $1,000 or more a year just in hopes of being Apple to play the latest and greatest AAA games on an iPhone.
Gaming on the iPhone in the AAA realm is currently a gimmick. There is no longevity.
Your PS4 will still play those games just as well as it did in 10 more years.
But Apple will have ran through 20 more iPhone iterations.
At $1000 this device better last me a good 5 years of solid newly released AAA titles. If it doesn’t, then it’s not worth the investment.
That’s why it’s a phone first, and computer second. It’s like buying a car for the infotainment cluster in the dash.
No way I’m paying that much for anything in the App Store given how many apps have been removed and i lost access to them when I upgrade to a new device. Wasted money.
Watch out someone will show you flow charts and graphs telling you that you’re wrong.
Apples goals are quick steady profits. Not the longevity of your overpriced AAA game library on your iPhone.
Remember that.
Not every cross gen game has the same features either. So if you get a PS5 game that has a PA4 version you lose out on stuff with the PS4 one.
And what about games like Returnal that didn’t even have a PS4 version. And this was back when the PS5 was new.
Is that a joke ? Playstation has official support over 10 years and it supports the latest AAA titles.
Ironically, only the greatest, latest iPhone, iPad, Mac can play residential evil 8 now.
PS4 didn’t get the ability to run Returnal and others at launch. This is a development issue, not an Apple/Sony issue. Sometimes the hardware just isn’t enough on older devices. So they choose to develop on the latest only instead of downgrading visuals.
This happened almost 12 years ago, the amount of AAA games back then were great, all of sudden they went back to simple games
haha gaming on apple devices. Especially a 60$ game which is published by capcom. No cooling, no guaranteed longevity. And of course steam deck fro the fraction of a new iPhone 15 and m1 iPad.
Take that android users with your emulations and side loading.
but seriously it does feel like a small victory.
You are absolutely right that things look very differently when you extend the timeframe and that the potential of the hardware increases significantly over time. That doesn't mean, however, that we all need to get carried away with excitement, nor that it's going to be a success regardless.
One may wonder, for example, why you'd even need to buy a game from Apple in 10yrs time if you can just run it from the cloud and, if that's the direction of travel, established players like Sony or Microsoft may have a significant leg up with their established platforms, games libraries and studios to produce good original content.
On the other hand, if local remains the primary way to play these games then a more capable phone will have an advantage. That being said, games will likely continue to take advantage of more capable 'desktop' hardware and so the question will remain to what extent mobile gaming will lag behind.
I think it's also worth remembering that while genuine AAA games have been out of reach, your average phone has been capable of playing more sophisticated games for years and, with some notable exceptions like Genshin Impact, Call of Duty: Mobile and PUBG, these aren't really the games that a lot of people play and there's probably a reason for that.
Anyway, I'm equally excited and sceptical but probably wouldn't buy a AAA on the App Store anytime soon.
Cloud will never take off. I have gigabit with Spectrum but the service is so spotty I can’t use cloud services. I tried. Way too much latency and input lag.
We will need to re-engineer the entire networking infrastructure and I don’t see that happening in 10 years potentially ever.
also cloud will never take off because a lot of gamers are more collectors than gamers. people will buy a game and maybe play it 3 months later. with cloud, you don't actually own anything to potentially play later so why buy it?
The same goes for music and film, probably even more so, and that hasn't stopped streaming.
I do agree with the previous response though that we're not remotely there yet.
Nope. Music and film can benefit from buffering. This will combat those micro internet issues. And input latency isn’t an issue because pause and resume a buffer. But try going to minute 50 of a film and you will wait a few seconds.
For most people owning hard copies of music, tv or movies isn't such a big deal when you end up rebuying it every decade for a higher resolution remaster.
Take the X-Files for example. It received a VHS, DVD and eventually 2K blu-ray release. Fans keep buying it up to watch 1-2x before a higher fidelity copy appears.
Battle cry: I want a ownership & not a license!
When the new remaster comes out the value plummets to junk value.
So what is its value? Peace of mind anyone can watch the X-Files even off line during WW3? By then I'd be worried about WMDs than some greedy Hollywood type trying to scam me.
That's why streaming is so lovely. An update on cable TV that isn't tied to any one place.
On my part I wish I never bought CD & DVD blanks to make backups. It was a money pit.
CD & DVD rot is real.
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I don't know where the physical limitations are, but I'd say that 25 years ago the thought of streaming HD content seemed impossible to me. I'm not sure I even had broadband at the time.
Never is a strong word.
As early as 2001 I knew streaming will occur. Sadly I was smooth brained to think that I'd rewatch backups at at an older resolution.
720p was unimaginable on a 480p TV back then.
22 years later and it's just low res as 4K or even 8K became the norm.