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With the new promotion I may get the phone. Here's a potential plan I had in mind.

$30 - 6 GB data
$20 - Mega My5 20 plan (200 WD + unlimited evenings and weekends + MY5 Canada Wide)
$11 - Value pack including call display, enhanced voice messaging, who called, mobile backup, and 125 text messages.

I sure hope they count visual voicemail as 'enhanced voice messaging' or I'll be pissed.

How does My5 work? What if you have to call someone who is not in your 5?
 
How does My5 work? What if you have to call someone who is not in your 5?

I think you pick 5 numbers that you will have unlimited calling and texting to. The 200 minutes are for everything else just like in a standard plan.
 
I think you pick 5 numbers that you will have unlimited calling and texting to. The 200 minutes are for everything else just like in a standard plan.

But...if that's $20, then why would anyone choose to get the 200 anytime minute plan? i.e. My5 is 20$ and you get 5 unlimited numbers + 200 minutes for everything else, why would you get the former plan?
 
But...if that's $20, then why would anyone choose to get the 200 anytime minute plan? i.e. My5 is 20$ and you get 5 unlimited numbers + 200 minutes for everything else, why would you get the former plan?

I was wondering the same thing myself. Maybe I've completely misinterpreted the plan but I don't think so. Maybe they just didn't see that my5 plan? It's under the 'mega value plans' on the Rogers site.

update: Here's a comparison from the Rogers site.
 

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I was wondering the same thing myself. Maybe I've completely misinterpreted the plan but I don't think so. Maybe they just didn't see that my5 plan? It's under the 'mega value plans' on the Rogers site.

All I see is My5 @ 25 and not at 20.
 
See the screenshot I just posted above...maybe in different regions they offer slightly different plans.

Thanks for the edit.

Uh, ya, that's not available in QC. I don't know if 200 minutes anytime is enough, it might be, it might not be. All I know is that my old plan I had 100 minutes or maybe 150 I don't even know - and I frequently went over my allowance.

Urgg. Still don't know which plan to get :(
 
Nobody knows what plan to get because there are no good plans to get!!!

Every single plan is very confusing, low in features, and very expensive

Don't let them fool you with text message for x amount every month cause all the bandwidth claugs their pipes. Well Rogers im in the Philippines right now, there is 85 million people here and to send a text is $0.01 a text message and to receive it's free.

Also the Philippines send the most text a day then any country in the world.
 
I decided to buy a Touch instead for now. I calculated all my stuff and to cancel my current plan with Telus it would have cost me 100$ (cause I have about 8 months left on my contract) and probably around 50$ for time I've used so far this month. Around 200$ for the iPhone and around 125$ for the plan and activation services. In total it would have cost me around 475$ not including the cost of gaz for the 45 min drive cause there are no Rogers mobility service in my city. The towers in my region are also very poor, you get a couple of bars on Rogers. I might move to Moncton in a year where the service is alot better so I will probably get one. Right now I would not get the full benefits of the 3G and a good network.
 
i talked to a few Rogers peeps today.


One said that if you bought a rogers phone in the last year, you aren't eligible for a hardware upgrade, and would not be allowed to get the iphone....

not allowed? even with a fine, or penalty? 'yup' I call BS and Rogers retard on that...


also, if you are already on a plan that is less than 30 bucks a month, the iPhone will cost you 350 for the 16 gig....not sure about the 8

sucks...
 
crunching numbers..

What i've been wondering since rogers announced the 30$/6GB option is if you can change this for the Data portion of the 60-$ iphone plan.. i dont imagine anyone wants 6.4 GB of data..

Visual voicemail seems in the air as to if it is included with all iphone, or teh 6GB promo..

my math ... $20 valuepack + $20 for 200 anytime mins + $30 6gb + $7 SAS + $0.50 911 + tax (AB) + 8$ VVMail = 95$

Someone elses chart had the Cheapest $60 plan coming out to $78 in Alberta.

I'm not seeing an easy way to get the 30$ 6GB data.. and not have a bare bones plan to come to the same prices.. or something even more when u have to added everything in.

Any ideas?

From what i see either u take a crappy rogers iphone plan for 80$.. or u pay 100$ to get the 6 GB of data.
 
Here's an interesting one. If you read the info on the iPhone rate plans, it says



So there will be no data disabled option. You can't even shut it off from your phone?

Source: http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-products/iphone_voice_data_packages

You can shut off 3G and hopefully EDGE as previously on the iPhone under the auspices of Energy consumption. I know 3G for sure. Will have to see if 2.5 as well. Yeah cause I mean some stuff should be able to work this time around that used to need data such as maps for instance, unless I guess they load the map not just your location from data. Hmm... I guess you shall find out.
Just called my local Rogers store. 117 iPhones for tomorrow. Weird number. Probably lying...

Yeah me thinks Montreal got lucky on this one. Only place to get a Fido to open early plus only place to thus have 2 Stores open early. That'll help split the demand.

do you anticipate sell-outs anywhere in Canada?

Another question: If you get a 200 minutes anytime plan, who cares if your evenings start at 7 (Fido) vs. 9 (rogers)? Am I missing something? I thought the 200 minute plans come with unlimited weekends/nights....guess I was wrong.
Yeah I do. Sell-outs for sure in my opinion. Also that may not matter, but I'm sure per second billing becomes even more crucial because losing 10-20% of your minutes on 30 second calls. You only have 200 minutes which means you can make only 200 30 second calls with Rogers and 400 with Fido if you see what I'm saying.

So who's camping?? I'm not pulling a 50 hour thing like the guy in New Zealand but I'm definitely relocating my address to outside Toronto Life Square at 4am tonight.

4 hour wait should be worth it to ensure that I get the white 16GB model
I'm shooting for 6. I didn't see anyone lining up on my way home just now so I doubt many are going to come much earlier than 6. Especially since the first metro only passes at 5:45 anyways. So most who don't drive or live downtown can't make it before 6.

Couple Random Notes:
It seems like Fido is going to be more flexible than Rogers. Even though typically they have like the exact same things, it seems in the confusion the Fido people have gone ahead with removing a lot of restrictions. Ummm... $250!?!? They must be kidding, cause it clearly says like $200 everywhere and to make no mention beforehand, they're goin have a **** storm in the papers. Everywhere it said $200 and I get there and it was $250 with $50 mail in-rebate, thats false advertising, for sure.

I'm still going with the its going to be debating and arguing 2morrow over free breakfast as the employees find out themselves what they can sell. LOL. Remember form 8-9, the doors will be open but iPhones will not be sold. Odd.

Also me thinks peeps should go with the Voice+Data for $30, cause it seems a lot easier to call retention and change your voice plan to something much better for same price, thus absolving you of any charges than it would be to change the bundle with the iPhone.
 
Quantity Confirmation:

Each authorized reseller got 10 iPhones - six 8GB, two 16GB black and two 16GB white.

Rogers Plus stores got triple that.

I think that it won't be enough. A lot of people are going to be disappointed tomorrow.

Mine is guaranteed as a friend who owns 3 authorized reseller stores has mine put away but for others I would suggest printing out a map of stores and hopping around to several until you've found one.
 
Quantity Confirmation:

Each authorized reseller got 10 iPhones - six 8GB, two 16GB black and two 16GB white.

Rogers Plus stores got triple that.

I think that it won't be enough. A lot of people are going to be disappointed tomorrow.

Mine is guaranteed as a friend who owns 3 authorized reseller stores has mine put away but for others I would suggest printing out a map of stores and hopping around to several until you've found one.

Yeah, there's not going to be any around tomorrow. I just read an article about how people are already lining up overnight at some locations. That's crazy. I'll wait until all the commotion is over and everyone has it in stock again.
 
I wandered into my local Rogers video store and they've got 6 iPhones for sale tomorrow. 4*8GB, 1*16BG Black and 1*16GB White.

He said that they had at least 20 inquiries to purchase the iPhone, but not enough stock to satisfy the demand, but they were expecting more next week.
 
Rogers discriminates against its own loyal customers

With the introduction of the iPhone only hours away the buzz in the Canadian market is loud. It looks like Rogers Communication Inc. has a great opportunity to take a strangle hold of the Canadian cellular market. Since both Bell and Telus don’t use the technology that the iPhone needs they will be shut out of the hype and unable to offer this sleek phone.

With the announcement of better data pricing by Rogers Communication Inc. on Wednesday I personally did a 180 degree turn and decided that I want to get an iPhone. I qualify for an upgrade, but I was shocked to find out that I was not able to get an iPhone. At first you may think it was because they are all sold out, unfortunately the real reason is that Rogers Authorized dealers across metro Toronto have agreed not to sell upgrades as detailed in this email I received earlier.


“Launch Day Friday July 11th is now a little more than a day away. Due to the limited supply of product, the Rogers Dealers have taken the following position which is being endorsed by Rogers.
First Priority Product will be reserved for NEW ACTIVATIONS "VOICE & DATA PLANS" ON 3-YEAR TERMS ONLY. (Friday). Depending on remaining stock, Second Priority will go to Hardware Upgrades where DATA Plans are being added. (Saturday*- Monday) Third Priority, subject to available inventory, will go to Hardware Upgrades where there is a Data Plan and / or the account is fully eligible. Probably after Monday Corporate upgrades; will not begin until at the very earliest on LATE NEXT WEEK, depending upon Inventory status.”


I am sure you can imagine my surprise to find out that Rogers Communication Inc. was going to not allow it’s own existing customers to upgrade, rather they choose to push them aside. I started to wonder how would the average Canadian react to this, after about an hour I felt that this was a big enough deal, and I couldn’t imagine that the CRTC or the Government of Canada could allow such discrimination. You would think following the up rising that took place on the web during the last 10 days Rogers Communication Inc. would have learned the value of the customer and of customer service. Instead they choose to treat their existing, loyal customer base like trash. I can’t fathom why a company as big as Rogers Communications Inc. and that has so many intelligent people working for them can make so many bad decisions in a two week period.

I know that my words fall on deaf ears since I am just a small customer to Rogers Communication Inc. and my complaining does not have any effect. But I write this article with the hope that others in the same position as me will let their voices be heard and perhaps with enough people making a big enough deal about this so things can change in the future.

http://www.ehmac.ca/ipod-itunes-iph...iminates-against-its-own-loyal-customers.html
 
Luckily, Apple doesn't seem to follow the Nintendo policy of holding off Wii stock to make it look like there's a bigger demand than there really is.

In this case, there really is a huge demand and Apple's producing as many as they can and as fast as they can. 20 countries launching it on Friday... that's a massive amount of iPhones!

Regardless of the first day demand, I think that in July everybody who wants one will find one.
 
Luckily, Apple doesn't seem to follow the Nintendo policy of holding off Wii stock to make it look like there's a bigger demand than there really is.

In this case, there really is a huge demand and Apple's producing as many as they can and as fast as they can. 20 countries launching it on Friday... that's a massive amount of iPhones!

Regardless of the first day demand, I think that in July everybody who wants one will find one.
Maybe in the US, but not in Canada in my belief. I think a lot of the other countries are getting second priority to the US. My friend works at an Apple Store in the US and they have over 500 iPhone for sale. Compare this to the rumblings of less than 50 at even the large ones opening early. I mean if that report is true that there is 50 at the 7 stores opening early and about 15 at all others. You are talking about inventory not even in the ten-thousand, compared that to the probably inventory to one or two large cities in USA.

I definitely think Apple has its priorities. We'll see shortages well into August if not September. By mid-August though it'll sorta be the thing that you can probably find one searching around for a day or two but you can't be sure by just walking in. But I guess we'll see. If Rogers screws over the plans too much I'm sure there will be extra inventory though.
 
^ Good point. I think few people are as informed as us MacRumors nuts :p. Many people will probably go all happy into the store willing to drop $199 and will find out that they have to sign 3 year contracts paying at least $60 per month (closer to $90 when all is included) when most Canadians are used to paying $30 to $50 per month on their cell phone.

Those people are gonna leave the store without an iPhone.

I'm concerned about not being able to get one tomorrow (even though I got personal assurance from a friend who owns 3 stores that he's going to do his best to put one aside for me as long as I show up bright and early) but by the end of the day, those concerns may come to be unjustified.

I'm willing to pay as much as $100 per month because it's a work tool that will increase my productivity by leaps and bounds.
 
I think we're out.

I really wanted to get an iPhone as did my wife. But now it's totally up in the air until we have a better idea of the real costs. Does anyone actually plan to post the real costs of moving from a voice plan to a voice plan+data plan when the iPhone is live?

Q: Why would I need an unlimited data plan? If I want to surf/check email/etc. I'll use the Wifi antenna - where does it say you need to pay extra? Obviously if isn't a wifi spot you'd use 3G.
I current get 125 text messages for free on my voice plan, can't I use SMS to do the same with the iPhone? Maybe I'd just move to another voice plan with a larger text message quota.

Thoughts?
 
You're on the other side of the scale. Most people want to be able to access the internet at all times which the iPhone allows. In Toronto, most WiFi networks that I find when roaming around are locked so I'd be stuck if I didn't have a data plan.

The real costs will amount to near $100 for an average iPhone user... that alone gives me hope that people willing to spend money tomorrow (like myself) will be able to get one.
 
Point Taken

You're on the other side of the scale. Most people want to be able to access the internet at all times which the iPhone allows. In Toronto, most WiFi networks that I find when roaming around are locked so I'd be stuck if I didn't have a data plan.

Thanks for the quick reply... I still wonder though if I'm the only one very skeptical about the real costs. According to the iPhone 3G docs it is going to try and connect to a Wifi network before a Cellular one (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1695). At least if you're at a library or other public (gov.) space the iPhone will try to keep the costs down. Hopefully we get some posts on what people are really paying.
 
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