So this faulty battery was in 30% of the 2.5 million shipped note 7' s? And they could not reproduce this with internal testing? Great QA! Or skipping of intensive QA because of deadline?
Pretty much their whole campaign/pr spin for their iPhone 4
No - I didn't save it. I googled it right after you tried to undermine my post. You keep failing to simply admit you're wrong. And that's ok. Everyone reading and/or paying attention can see it now.
Yes, pretty much of course.
You stated earlier you did not compare the life threatening mistake by samsung with the cosmetic or technical faults by apple (far from life threatening).
Now you did and you have done this the whole time.
So about you going into politics,:
how about building a wall between the us border and another country and having the other country pay for it?
Great idea! You could pull it off, you have the skills!
First with what? The Note 7 already does stuff and/or has features even the iPhone 8 won't have.![]()
Your logic is circuitous. I am not comparing severity. But when you present a mock presentation of how it would play out in the media, I can certainly refer back to how Apple responded to their PR spin on an issue. Here's the difference though. Apple actually created that spin. Samsung, to date, hasn't created any spin. Have they? Have they tried to minimize the importance? No. They've responded responsibly. As they should. Maybe you could try not creating a fiction vs non-fiction example?
Your logic is circuitous. I am not comparing severity. But when you present a mock presentation of how it would play out in the media, I can certainly refer back to how Apple responded to their PR spin on an issue. Here's the difference though. Apple actually created that spin. Samsung, to date, hasn't created any spin. Have they? Have they tried to minimize the importance? No. They've responded responsibly. As they should. Maybe you could try not creating a fiction vs non-fiction example?
Care to prove who you call haters wrong?The haters suggest they rushed it to market... that's a careless assumption.
Proof positive they're haters.
of course they didn' t spin it. They couldn't . 35 of these things blew up and people have almost been hurt of would get hurt if they didn' t act. These batteries were in 30% of their phones. How could they spin that for gods sake!
They could not, so they had to act because they made a life threatening mistake. And you think that is great from Samsung? It is normal, that is all...
And I am not going into the qc issues that Samsung also has and has not dealt with, there are plenty the last years. Because that is not the issue here.
I won' t compare quality or technical issues with exploding life threatening phones that is of a complete different level, not life threatening...
Care to prove who you call haters wrong?
I didn't think so.
All the evidence: Shoddy QA, poor product quality, timing of release, just before an Apple keynote all show that this Samsung phone was rushed to ther market. It's a simple case of not doing enough QA on the puoduct so it could meat the too early release deadline (before the Apple keynote). The lack of enough QA is why samsung is in this mess now.
[doublepost=1473175951][/doublepost]Samsung's responce to this.
"We did not release our phones too early. Apple had it's keynote too early."
Care to prove who you call haters wrong?
I didn't think so.
All the evidence: Shoddy QA, poor product quality, timing of release, just before an Apple keynote all show that this Samsung phone was rushed to ther market. It's a simple case of not doing enough QA on the puoduct so it could meat the too early release deadline (before the Apple keynote). The lack of enough QA is why samsung is in this mess now.
[doublepost=1473175951][/doublepost]Samsung's responce to this.
"We did not release our phones too early. Apple had it's keynote too early."
Apparently, Apple already knows how not to ship phones with exploding batteries. You have to more than a little confused to look at this situation and conclude Apple is the one with the problem.
Or, to be serious: Apple has occasionally recalled products for battery issues, and it doesn't seem they've ever let a safety issue like this go. It doesn't appear they have something to learn from Samsung here.
Honestly, sometimes I see the tech fans as having the same "my truck has bigger tailpipes" mentality that I find so sad in people.
And I don't mean any disrespect for Samsung as it can happen to anyone. I was surprised at how serious it must be that they had to halt production and recall everything. Maybe I read that wrong? You see that in food recalls or dangerous car failures.No need to commend Samsung. But no need to assume anything was rushed. This was their release date schedule as per last year. Do you honestly believe they rushed this to market? Is it possible that they simply missed this or it didn't come up during their testing? QA isn't perfect. Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, Ford, GE, etc - they all have had products get passed QA with issues. Life threatening or not. People take this way too personally.
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I don't dismiss the seriousness. But currently (at least from what I read) we're talking about 35 cases out of 2.5 million.
I know then they make things up it hard as they refuse to listen to facts and logic.You can't when you just make things up.
Note 7 is more an iPhone Plus competitor. This Samsung issue is not going to improve iPhone sales measurably.
Actually genuinely looking forward to this, it should be fun.With Apple said to be overhauling its mobile design for a tenth anniversary "iPhone 8", and Samsung clearly keen to bounce back and impress after its latest troubles, everything points to 2017 being potentially one of the most ultra-competitive years the smartphone industry has ever seen.
Samesong = phail of the century.
Total recall.
Apple has had it's fair share of issues that were blamed on users or swept under the rug/quietly handled without calling it a recall to save face. Like I said - Apple could learn from this. It IS how the real work/businesses work.
I hadn't seen actual numbers before. 35 cases seems too much for a hoax, and also a serious number. Especially since we don't know if this happens only with brand new phones or with older ones as well (in the best case, there were 35 bad phones that burned immediately, and 2,499,965 phones that were absolutely fine). If Samsung planned to sell 50 million phones, that would have been 700 burning ones. And it makes a huge legal difference if you know that there is a problem or not.I don't dismiss the seriousness. But currently (at least from what I read) we're talking about 35 cases out of 2.5 million.
at least Samsung responsible with their product, how about TOUCH IC disease ? apple will do same thing ?