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Well that’s my opinion on the matter which I am entitled to just as you are entitled to yours. When the X plus comes out I won’t feel the need to fill the screen because the size of the video natively will be big enough.

So your problem isn’t the notch but the size of the display.....
 
That’s 30 something after vat.

So what about the iPhone X?
Or does that not exist to prove his narrative?
In the UK, prices always include VAT, unless you are buying for trade. You never walk into any shop and see prices without VAT. Probably illegsl. Again, the OP was quoting price for ip8.
 
You're completely missing my point.

I'm not saying that there are no flagships that support SD cards. I'm not saying that SD cards aren't cheap. I'm not saying that other, non-phone devices don't use SD cards (this is getting waaaay off my original topic) and I'm not saying that nobody uses SD cards or that they're completely irrelevant.

My original point was that "SD card support" isn't as big of a selling feature as it used to be, partly due to the abundance of cloud storage making "SD card support" less essential (I'm NOT saying it's pointless) since there are other options out there.

I'm literally just saying that Samsung stating "We have SD support and Apple doesn't" isn't as big of a "hit" today because of increased internal storage and cloud storage options, some of which are free.

Yeah, 4 years ago when my family and I all had a 16GB iPhone 5S and no free unlimited Google Photos storage, we really wished we had SD card support. Today when you buy a flagship iPhone, you'll have at least 64GB, access to Google Photos, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc. Plus we have the added benefit of accessing these files on multiple devices nearly anywhere without swapping out a physical card.

Would SD card support still be nice? Of course it would. Is the lack of support as restricting as it was used to be? Definitely not.
I’m sure SD cards are a big selling point in developing countries where they don’t have access to a good internet connection. For those people the cloud is not useful if they can’t access it. Remember most of the phones that are sold around the world are cheap android phones which probably have low amounts of internal storage so for those people an SD card is still important.
 
I’m sure SD cards are a big selling point in developing countries where they don’t have access to a good internet connection. For those people the cloud is not useful if they can’t access it. Remember most of the phones that are sold around the world are cheap android phones which probably have low amounts of internal storage so for those people an SD card is still important.

What does that have to do with iPhones?

So the people that buy cheap androids are going to spend over 1000 On iPhone X?

No they wouldn’t.

Don’t think your making much sense.
 
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You're completely missing my point.

I'm not saying that there are no flagships that support SD cards. I'm not saying that SD cards aren't cheap. I'm not saying that other, non-phone devices don't use SD cards (this is getting waaaay off my original topic) and I'm not saying that nobody uses SD cards or that they're completely irrelevant.

My original point was that "SD card support" isn't as big of a selling feature as it used to be, partly due to the abundance of cloud storage making "SD card support" less essential (I'm NOT saying it's pointless) since there are other options out there.

I'm literally just saying that Samsung stating "We have SD support and Apple doesn't" isn't as big of a "hit" today because of increased internal storage and cloud storage options, some of which are free.

Yeah, 4 years ago when my family and I all had a 16GB iPhone 5S and no free unlimited Google Photos storage, we really wished we had SD card support. Today when you buy a flagship iPhone, you'll have at least 64GB, access to Google Photos, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc. Plus we have the added benefit of accessing these files on multiple devices nearly anywhere without swapping out a physical card.

Would SD card support still be nice? Of course it would. Is the lack of support as restricting as it was used to be? Definitely not.
You stated that SD card use was declining ignoring the fact that large storage cards are now much cheaper due to the volumes that are obviously being sold. There is nothing stopping people with SD cards also using cloud storage. This is like the argument hat Apple needed to remove the headphone jack to get Bluetooth use with phones. It was available for years. But people will normally choose the lower cost option given the choice. Most people will choose 256 GB storage with a combo if they can save £100.
 
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In the UK, prices always include VAT, unless you are buying for trade. You never walk into any shop and see prices without VAT. Probably illegsl. Again, the OP was quoting price for ip8.

Do you have the link to the 30 pound deal?

Actually he replied to a post about iPhones and luxury.

He decided to focus on the 8 to make is point, weak as it is.

So what’s the cheapest iPhone X plan?
 
I’m sure SD cards are a big selling point in developing countries where they don’t have access to a good internet connection. For those people the cloud is not useful if they can’t access it. Remember most of the phones that are sold around the world are cheap android phones which probably have low amounts of internal storage so for those people an SD card is still important.
Thrre are loads of places in Scotland where you can't access a reliable data connection. Particularly in scenic tourist locations where you want to take masses of photos.
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Do you have the link to the 30 pound deal?

Actually he replied to a post about iPhones and luxury.

He decided to focus on the 8 to make is point, weak as it is.

So what’s the cheapest iPhone X plan?
Are you trolling. An OP stated that you can get a deal for an ip8 for 20 something and you started asking for links to a £20 deal for an X. I politely replied stating that the OP was referring to an ip8 and that 20 something could mean £29.99. not replying again.
 
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You stated that SD card use was declining ignoring the fact that large storage cards are now much cheaper due to the volumes that are obviously being sold. There is nothing stopping people with SD cards also using cloud storage. This is like the argument hat Apple needed to remove the headphone jack to get Bluetooth use with phones. It was available for years. But people will normally choose the lower cost option given the choice. Most people will choose 256 GB storage with a combo if they can save £100.
I was referring to my personal observation in that I don’t know many people that still use SD cards in their smartphones.

I feel like you’re still missing my point. I never stated that large SD cards don’t exist or aren’t cheap. I never stated that people with SD cards can’t also use cloud storage. I don’t know how the headphone jack relates to this but I never stated Apple needed to do that either?

Also, if people normally choose the lower cost option than who’s to say that most people choose to opt for free online storage versus paying for an SD card?

Again, my point was simply that a lack of an SD card isn’t as big of a hinderance these days. That’s all.
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I’m sure SD cards are a big selling point in developing countries where they don’t have access to a good internet connection. For those people the cloud is not useful if they can’t access it. Remember most of the phones that are sold around the world are cheap android phones which probably have low amounts of internal storage so for those people an SD card is still important.
But my topic was about the Galaxy S9 commercial: that’s what I was referring to this entire time. I don’t think that Samsung is going after developing countries where food internet connection isn’t available with the S9.

But again this has strayed so far off my original point, I’m just talking in circles now.
 
All the people with their private nude pictures leaked by iCloud all over the internet disagree. That's the point of the SD card ad is to store it locally encrypted.

You mean the phishing scam that compromised iCloud and google accounts?

Because iCloud never leaked anything.

Are you spreading that fud again?
 
I was referring to my personal observation in that I don’t know many people that still use SD cards in their smartphones.

I feel like you’re still missing my point. I never stated that large SD cards don’t exist or aren’t cheap. I never stated that people with SD cards can’t also use cloud storage. I don’t know how the headphone jack relates to this but I never stated Apple needed to do that either?

Also, if people normally choose the lower cost option than who’s to say that most people choose to opt for free online storage versus paying for an SD card?

Again, my point was simply that a lack of an SD card isn’t as big of a hinderance these days. That’s all.
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But my topic was about the Galaxy S9 commercial: that’s what I was referring to this entire time. I don’t think that Samsung is going after developing countries where food internet connection isn’t available with the S9.

But again this has strayed so far off my original point, I’m just talking in circles now.

No your right, if google cared about sd cards the pixels would have it.

No your right on the second point as well, Samsung has sub 100 phones for those markets. Definitely not for the s9.

Don’t know what that poster is trying to prove?
 
Desperate adverts from a desperate company trying to make desperate sales.

If you can’t say anything good about your own product, say something bad about your competitor.
Classy.
 
Desperate adverts from a desperate company trying to make desperate sales.

If you can’t say anything good about your own product, say something bad about your competitor.
Classy.

Well s9 sales are really tanking. the Galaxy S9 series will end up being Samsung’s worst-selling Galaxy S phone series since 2012.
 
I think Apple got it right with the storage. I admit that it makes you think about how much storage you need and locks you in after purchase, but I'd rather have that than fumbling around with external storage.

I've seen people deal with external storage on android phones and its just not worth the hassle.
 
Again, my point was simply that a lack of an SD card isn’t as big of a hinderance these days. That’s all.
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But with a S9 that is close to being maxed out - having the option to double the storage capacity for under £20 is a great convenience. Remember, not everyone lives in areas with reliable, constant data service, which is needed if the cloud is used for active storage and not just a backup.
 
Or maybe the Apple critics simply don’t understand what makes Apple tick, and so simply choose to dismiss what they don’t comprehend. It’s not that Apple genuinely makes good products that people are willing to pay a premium for because it meets their needs. No, if I buy a product you don’t like, it has to me who is at fault. I am the sheep who has been hoodwinked. And apparently my own positive experiences with the platforms don’t amount to anything in the light of your “superior logic”.
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And there is the problem. There can only be a disco tony?? Either Apple critics who don’t under stand Apple or fan boys who don’t question.

I am going to be in the camp that m
Actually. Samsung is merely testing these new “unbreakable” screens. They havent been put into any phones yet. They’re not totally unbreakable. They’ve been drop tested from 4-6 feet.

Apple is fixing all the keyboards with MacBooks that broke and are even issuing refunds for people who already paid on services to fix them because of the design error.

Clearly you missed where I said not commercially available. And you know Apple sources Samsung parts (screens).

And you missed the comparison. Apple can’t get key boards right, yet Samsung consistency have higher ratings. You know that iPhone X is rated ip67, yet how many Samsungs are rated ip68 (with headphone jack!)


And didn’t Apple state they couldn’t achieve a ip67 without taking out the jack. Lame!
 
I think Apple got it right with the storage. I admit that it makes you think about how much storage you need and locks you in after purchase, but I'd rather have that than fumbling around with external storage.

I've seen people deal with external storage on android phones and its just not worth the hassle.
Fumbling???. One can set up the card to be combined with the original phone storage and let the OS handle what goes where, or you keep the SD card as separate internal storage, and you decide what goes to it. Like Spotify downloads or photos etc. Fumbling I don't get.

And btw, external storage is like an SSD connected by WiFi or usb or cloud. An SD is internal, portable storage. An SD card set up as combined with original phone storage, it is no longer portable.
 
This. Being able to easily transfer 5000 pictures to a micro sd chip that cost me $10 maybe the biggest feature of Android that Apple has no answer for. Phone out of memory on vacation? Pop in another $10 card and I am good for another 5,000 pictures. No uploading required.

Why, you’re cheap and stuck in the past?
 
Do you have the link to the 30 pound deal?

Actually he replied to a post about iPhones and luxury.

He decided to focus on the 8 to make is point, weak as it is.

So what’s the cheapest iPhone X plan?

This is the same as calling him a liar, be civilised
 
What evidence is there that it works? Heck what evidence do we have that the Mac vs PC ads worked? Apple’s market share in that industry is still single digits.
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Pretty pathetic that people’s comebacks are posting Apple ads from nearly 10 years ago.
The amount of time that has passed makes no difference. Apple were up to the same tricks. Difference then no one criticised Apple for doing so.
 
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Cool, but the point is something is still being lost.

As it is on a Galaxy where there are full-width bars top and bottom. At least on the X you have some dynamic data where they have nothing. Battery & network stuff are up and out of the way. Free space.
 
You either have the notch intruding on the video or you lose screen space shrinking the video. That's why people call the notch screen sizes fake. 5.8" is actually ~5.3" and upcoming 6.1" is really ~5.6", 6.5" is really ~6.0", etc.

Notch is lazy engineering while the holy grail is bezelless no notch screen with embedded sensors. Whoever gets there 1st will be king.

Calling what Apple accomplished lazy is silly. You might not like the design, but it took difficult engineering to get it done.

It is just perspective: you see the “notch”, I see the “horns”. Having that additional screen area is welcomed because it proves a place to hide status information, or buttons in games. Of course eliminating that wedge of sensors would be ideal, but it isn’t possible today so why fault Apple for making a reasonable compromise?

It is especially silly to argue about the size of their displays. When all the phones are different aspect ratio, different shapes, and the sizes are usually measured diagonally… distance in any direction doesn’t matter. Screen area is the important measurement now.
 
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OP said ip8. And £29.99 is "20 something"

Are you just here to troll? I see no usefulness with any of your snarky smart-a$$ comments.
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Lol, you've done it again.. just in a different way to try and justify your first comments, "most people" but changed your tack... it is a premium phone, no one disputes that.. but that doesn't make it luxury.. a Bentley is luxury. It's out of the reach of the man in the street. 100 million sales a year is common as muck.. without a shred of luxury attatched to it....
I meant exactly what i said in the first comment. My point is iPhone is viewed AS A LUXURY ITEM. MOST PEOPLE who don’t own iPhones and use different brands assume they’re expensive, HENCE it being a luxury brand. YES. We somewhat tech savvy people know that most iPhones ARE AFFORDABLE.

Don’t compare cars that has nothing to do with the discussion.

Some people might think Samsung or LG or whichever company is luxury. Doesn’t mean that it is.

My whole point was PERCEPTION.
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And there is the problem. There can only be a disco tony?? Either Apple critics who don’t under stand Apple or fan boys who don’t question.

I am going to be in the camp that m


Clearly you missed where I said not commercially available. And you know Apple sources Samsung parts (screens).

And you missed the comparison. Apple can’t get key boards right, yet Samsung consistency have higher ratings. You know that iPhone X is rated ip67, yet how many Samsungs are rated ip68 (with headphone jack!)


And didn’t Apple state they couldn’t achieve a ip67 without taking out the jack. Lame!
So you totally made a comparison of a laptop keyboard to the water resistance of a smartphone and who makes iPhone X’s screen. It’s an APPLE DESIGNED, SAMSUNG MANUFACTURED SCREEN. Everyone knows that. Wtf are you talking about? What are you trying to prove? To me when you talk about specs like ip68 vs ip67 you’re a troll. I just saw a water depth comparison between iPhone X and either galaxy S8 or 9 dunked in a river over 20 feet down. Guess which one survived? The lower ip67 rated iPhone X. Check it out on everythingapplepro YouTube.
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All the people with their private nude pictures leaked by iCloud all over the internet disagree. That's the point of the SD card ad is to store it locally encrypted.
Actually they were leaked due to weak passwords.
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Of the general phone buying masses, if Apple offered a phone with SD card facility, how many would pay the extra £140 for the 256 GB version if they could turn a 64GB phone into a 320GB phone for half that cost? An SD card in a phone is internal storage.
Apple don't offer SD card use because they don't get the money for the storage.
I pay 0.99 for 50 gigs of iCloud storage.
How much would a 50 gig SD cost??
 
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