Still Running OS X Yosemite? Beware, iTunes 12.8.1 Breaks Safari

[flygbuss]

Hmmm? I pay for my OS updates upfront when I buy a Mac or iOS device. The OS and its updates are bundled in with the cost of the device. That’s why Apple’s terms state it can only be installed on Apple hardware when it (clearly) can be installed on custom hardware.

If you bought a MacBook Pro in 2012, more then 6 years ago it came with OS X / macOS Lion. Since then apple released 7 OSs’ you could download for free. This is a pretty good number I think. And yes, not officially of course, but since apple moved to intel there is the chance to build a customized hackintosh as well.

 

[bernuli]

Thanks for this work around! I deleted this file and my Safari is back to working like normal. I am running OsX Yosemite 10.10.5 and haven't upgraded to Mojave yet, gotta do the back up first.

You may not be able to do local backups of iOS devices with iTunes after deleting that folder.

 

[4jasontv]

If you bought a MacBook Pro in 2012, more then 6 years ago it came with OS X / macOS Lion. Since then apple released 7 OSs’ you could download for free. This is a pretty good number I think. And yes, not officially of course, but since apple moved to intel there is the chance to build a customized hackintosh as well.

No it’s not free. I paid for the OS upfront. We all did. It’s like buying the deluxe edition of a video game and getting a season pass that comes with all the expansion packs.

 

[GastonM]

Still running OS X Yosemite is the same as still running Windows XP

 

[JoB4031]

Is there an iTunes 12.6.x with App Store support for Mojave that works?

I have 12.6.5. working with Majave with some caveats. I disabled SIP and ran the script found here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ith-macos-mojave.2143244/page-4#post-26592234

Then re-enabled SIP, and all is working. No issues with my iPhone 8 Plus. I imagine that 12.6.5 won't work with the newer iPhone XS and XR which is a reason I will keep this phone longer than I usually do.

Caveat, and it could be big, is that you need to setup iCloud beforehand because uninstalling iTunes 12.9 will break the login process to iCloud. I reset my iCloud and to login I had to reinstall iTunes 12.9 via a reinstall of Majave, log into iCloud, then run the above process to get iTunes 12.6.5. Just make sure not to run iTunes 12.9 as this will messup your iTunes library, you simply need it installed for the iCloud login to happen.

Note that the last 12.14.2 update reinstalled iTunes 12.9, but I was able to reinstall 12.6.5 with the above process with no problem.

It took a call to level 2 tech support at Apple to figure why my iCloud wasn't working. The tech seemed surprised that iTunes 12.6.5 was even working. He seemed to imply that it working was a bug so I image Apple tech is working to squash it.

 

[flygbuss]

No it’s not free. I paid for the OS upfront. We all did. It’s like buying the deluxe edition of a video game and getting a season pass that comes with all the expansion packs.

Of course we paid for it. I’m just saying that there is a lot you get in return. It’s more then just updates on a game. You’re getting a new game within a limited time frame (maybe 6 to 7 years).

 

[Sasparilla]

Okay folks, people are looking for guidance on how to look up the path to do the deletion (if I was home I would do it & verify what I'm saying is correct, but I'm not...).

Please help them on this.

 

[sirozha]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Apple only supports the current and -1 release of means Mojave and High Sierra. This is affecting Yosemite, released in 2014.

If you want a desktop OS with extended support lifecycle, then use Windows 10 enterprise. Even each version of the regular Windows 10 Home releases is only supported for about 2 years.

The only problem is that Apple blocks newer OS to be installed in older devices.

For example, with the Mac Mini 2011, Apple removed support for software raid on the system Drive in High Sierra, even though High Sierra is supported on Mac Mini 2011. So, people who own a 2011 Mac Mini with dual drives in RAID1 are stuck with Sierra.

I own a 2012 Mac Mini, and will be stuck with Mojave, as Apple will not support the next macOS version on the 2012 Mac Mini.

 

[Scerby]

You may not be able to do local backups of iOS devices with iTunes after deleting that folder.

Maybe reinstalling iTunes can help with that? I don't have any iOS device so I can't verify backups.

 

[sirozha]

Still running OS X Yosemite is the same as still running Windows XP

Apple blocks older machines from newer macOS versions. People with older machines have no choice.

 

[justperry]

I'm not very tech but there is no private frameworks folder in my library

Hi
Can anyone tell me how to access 'PrivateFrameworks'? It doesnt seem to be in my Library. Thanks

Would you be willing to do a step by step instruction guide for how you did this? Im excellent at following directions, but terrible at anything beyond the basic use of a Macbook. If so, thank you in advance!!!

I can't find this file path in my finder..." /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MobileDevice.framework/Versions/A/MobileDevice"

Can you tell me how to access it? I also searched for a MobileDevice and nothing pulled up. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
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Where do you go on the Mac to find the Private Frameworks? Do you just find this in the "Finder" by searching top right corner? When I did this nothing came up? thoughts?

There's an easy way.

Open terminal, just hit Command-spacebar, that's the key next to the keyboard, input terminal and then the return/enter button.
Next, type this or copy from here:

sudo mv /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MobileDevice.framework/Versions/A/MobileDevice ~/Desktop

Hit return/enter
Enter your password, it's necessary for this command to work.
The file should now be on your Desktop, restart.
I don't know if SIP was already active in Yosemite, if that's the case you need to disable it first, but AFAIK it's not necessary.(This is a bit vague, if you can't move it and SIP is enabled you need to disable it first)
You can check the status of SIP with the following command:

csrutil status
Hit return

If it says enabled you have to disable it, you can't disable it from the system, you need to this in recovery mode, something you need to search for yourself, I have no time left now, have to go.
Ok, shorty then, restart in recovery mode, select terminal from the menubar, think it's under utilities, in terminal type:

csrutil disable
Restart
Check if it's off in Terminal after a restart by inputting the command csrutil status , if it says disabled your good to go.
It's a good idea to reenable it after your done.

Be careful, the Sudo before any command gives you all the rights to any file, if you use it you can potentially wreck the system, but as long as you type it in (path) correctly it should be 100% safe.
It's also a move command, nothing gets deleted, just moved from one place to the other.

 

[sirozha]

I have 12.6.5. working with Majave with some caveats. I disabled SIP and ran the script found here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ith-macos-mojave.2143244/page-4#post-26592234

Then re-enabled SIP, and all is working. No issues with my iPhone 8 Plus. I imagine that 12.6.5 won't work with the newer iPhone XS and XR which is a reason I will keep this phone longer than I usually do.

Caveat, and it could be big, is that you need to setup iCloud beforehand because uninstalling iTunes 12.9 will break the login process to iCloud. I reset my iCloud and to login I had to reinstall iTunes 12.9 via a reinstall of Majave, log into iCloud, then run the above process to get iTunes 12.6.5. Just make sure not to run iTunes 12.9 as this will messup your iTunes library, you simply need it installed for the iCloud login to happen.

Note that the last 12.14.2 update reinstalled iTunes 12.9, but I was able to reinstall 12.6.5 with the above process with no problem.

It took a call to level 2 tech support at Apple to figure why my iCloud wasn't working. The tech seemed surprised that iTunes 12.6.5 was even working. He seemed to imply that it working was a bug so I image Apple tech is working to squash it.

I wish Apple support gave a damn, but they don’t. He is not going to pursue it.

 

[justperry]

Apple blocks older machines from newer macOS versions. People with older machines have no choice.

Rightfully so in many cases, those systems are just not up to it to run the new OS without being for instance sluggish or unstable.
Some Systems run good though, My Macs were released in 2012, still runs the latest OS.

Okay folks, people are looking for guidance on how to look up the path to do the deletion (if I was home I would do it & verify what I'm saying is correct, but I'm not...).

Please help them on this.

Done

 

[nt5672]

Apple blocks older machines from newer macOS versions. People with older machines have no choice.

And blocking old machines was fine when Moore's law was in effect, but now days the blocking need is just greed.

 

[flygbuss]

The only problem is that Apple blocks newer OS to be installed in older devices.

For example, with the Mac Mini 2011, Apple removed support for software raid on the system Drive in High Sierra, even though High Sierra is supported on Mac Mini 2011. So, people who own a 2011 Mac Mini with dual drives in RAID1 are stuck with Sierra.

I own a 2012 Mac Mini, and will be stuck with Mojave, as Apple will not support the next macOS version on the 2012 Mac Mini.

You still can use a soft raid as your system drive.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/raid-0-boot-support-in-high-sierra.2103521/#post-25943721

You have to stick to HFS+ but there is also a work around for APFS even though it's more complicated.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mojave-on-raid-with-apfs-a-howto.2125096/

The raid feature disappeared from disk utility within El Capitan but came back with Sierra.

I know it sucks when you own a machine that is no longer officially supported with the latest macOS, I own a 2011 MBP myself, but HS works just fine and I can also use it with a patched Mojave, thanks to the afford of some members here.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-10-14-mojave-on-unsupported-macs-thread.2121473/

 

[JCRGullane]

Reinstalling the OsX is not necessary!!
I had the same problem with Safari yesterday... After 2 hours of finding solution (safe boot, combo update etc.) I've just completely deleted the file "MobileDevice". The path to this file is in Safari's error message: "Referenced from: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MobileDevice.framework/Versions/A/MobileDevice"

After deleting this file (on your own risk) Safari successfully opened with the last session, all bookmarks etc.

YES!!! Thank you so much for taking the plunge first & letting us know. I’m afraid the thrill of the chase has long gone for me and you have saved me (& doubtless many others) a lot of time.

 

[keenanmsc]

I tried this and it worked for me. Have you seen any side effects of this? Thank for the help!

Please help me find this file on my desktop OSX 10.10.5 I am a total dummy and don't know how to find /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MobileDevice.framework/Versions/A/MobileDevice

 

[anthogag]

I am running High Sierra (beta). It affected my Safari a little bit. In some websites it won't let me type/input a comment. When I start typing the page refreshes.

 

[MoniquePS]

Hello, I'm not tech-savvy at all so I'm hoping you can help me. I did find the MobileDevice through the magnifying glass and when I clicked on it (Top Hit) 3 items appeared: MobileDevice, Resources, Versions. Am I in the right place? And, do I delete all 3? And, how do I delete them? Thanks in advance!

Reinstalling the OsX is not necessary!!
I had the same problem with Safari yesterday... After 2 hours of finding solution (safe boot, combo update etc.) I've just completely deleted the file "MobileDevice". The path to this file is in Safari's error message: "Referenced from: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MobileDevice.framework/Versions/A/MobileDevice"

After deleting this file (on your own risk) Safari successfully opened with the last session, all bookmarks etc.

 

[djhype40]

Reinstalling the OsX is not necessary!!
I had the same problem with Safari yesterday... After 2 hours of finding solution (safe boot, combo update etc.) I've just completely deleted the file "MobileDevice". The path to this file is in Safari's error message: "Referenced from: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MobileDevice.framework/Versions/A/MobileDevice"

After deleting this file (on your own risk) Safari successfully opened with the last session, all bookmarks etc.

Took me awhile to find "MobileDevice", but I deleted it and safari started up right away. Thanks Scerby!

 

[Naraxus]

There have always been bugs, there will always be bugs.

You completely missed the point. Of course there will always be bugs. I never said there wasn’t any bugs did I?

 

[Lauzie17]

If you need to reinstall Safari 10.1.2 for Yosemite you can get it here:

http://swcdn.apple.com/content/down...w6j4t386ym6q8d5p1g5m/Safari10.1.2Yosemite.pkg

How do we install this if we don’t have browsing capability? I tried to go to the App Store and see if I could download Firefox so I could download this, but Firefox does not come up. I am not very computer savvy and now have no internet capability because of this update. Any assistance is greatly appreciated!

 

[MoniquePS]

Took me awhile to find "MobileDevice", but I deleted it and safari started up right away. Thanks Scerby!

Took me awhile to find "MobileDevice", but I deleted it and safari started up right away. Thanks Scerby!

Hello djhype,
How did you delete it? 3 folders popped up for me when I found MobileDevice. TIA!
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I can't find this file path in my finder..." /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MobileDevice.framework/Versions/A/MobileDevice"

Can you tell me how to access it? I also searched for a MobileDevice and nothing pulled up. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
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Where do you go on the Mac to find the Private Frameworks? Do you just find this in the "Finder" by searching top right corner? When I did this nothing came up? thoughts?

I found it in the Magnifying Glass...I hope that's the way others found it. I'm not tech savvy. Now I'm waiting to hear back about how and what I delete...

 

[Scerby]

Hello, I'm not tech-savvy at all so I'm hoping you can help me. I did find the MobileDevice through the magnifying glass and when I clicked on it (Top Hit) 3 items appeared: MobileDevice, Resources, Versions. Am I in the right place? And, do I delete all 3? And, how do I delete them? Thanks in advance!

MoniquePS open Versions folder, then open "A" folder and you will see "MobileDevice" file. Try rename this file or move it to another place.

 

[MichoneStark]

I apologize in advance but I am not at all computer-y...how do I delete the file that was suggested...thank you!