Tim Cook Says 250 Apple Employees Are 'Dreamers' as Donald Trump's Decision on DACA Nears

[Tork]

Man, there's a lot of misunderstanding about what this policy does and whom this policy protects. I hope the folks supporting an end to it take the time to look into it.

It's not a right vs left thing like the top-voted post says. It's a right vs wrong thing, and many Republicans who actually know what they're taking about don't want to see this ended either.

 

[RogerWilco]

DACA is not a law, but rather a policy. However, to argue that it evades existing immigration protocols and laws is a misunderstanding of U.S. immigration law and policy under the INA.

U.S. immigration authorities have the ability to decide on a case-by-case basis a number of strictures that can allow a person to stay in the United States, including humanitarian parole, parole in place, and deferred action. Legally speaking, EOIR and USCIS can choose to grant someone asylum or refugee status, or TPS.

In all cases, the complexities of civil immigration law mean that U.S. authorities have discretion and anyone who tells you "the law is the law" is making a political point, not a legal one.

Yes, the immigration officers have the power and authority to decide on a case by case (i.e. individual) basis, who may pass the gate. DACA did an end run of these protocols by granting a blanket pass to an entire group based on the premise that they self-declared as "children". We then saw the ridiculous spectacle of CBP asking a twenty-something man his age, and getting "de diecisiete" as the answer.

 

[Rocketman]

It really, really is. I've been sitting here for a few minutes, trying to think of how to Photoshop it into something funny, but it's already done!

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Everything he does is scripted.

 

[prowlmedia]

Your point hasn't mattered for at least a century. Both those indigenous and colonial people are all long dead.

...and their descendants run Casinos in notown when they used to own California.

Being blind to history is basically why America has gone over the cliff in that last year. Gee Shuuucks that nice Gameshow host will bring back the Coal industry. Yeee harrrrrr.

 

[ndpitch]

What he said was 100% fact-free conjecture. It was literally just a word salad of generalizations unmoored from any reality. And that link Menopause posted didn't even qualify as pseudo-science. It was baseless nonsense devoid of any data. How is that compelling? Have some dignity. Don't hitch your reputation to a charlatan.

I think I'll be the judge as to whether or not I possess dignity, thank you. But I appreciate your baseless hide-behind-the-internet judgement of my character. Unreal.

I'm not surprised, though. What happens today when you compliment someone on their thought process that strays away from what the mainstream media wants you to believe? You get told you have no dignity. That's pretty much the state of affairs today. Have an opinion that's not aligned with leftist progressives? Prepared to be judged and chastised.

So go ahead and judge. You're not changing my mind. And if I offended you, I don't care. Have a good night!

 

[RogerWilco]

...and their descendants run Casinos in notown when they used to own California.

Of course the way England handled those troublesome Irish is an example of restraint and humanity? FFS get over yourself.

 

[statik13]

Stupid response - ok - our ancestors did it, why can't they? AND BTW - we did do it - I've worked for over 50 years and have contributed all that time. I was born into a good system and did my part to grow it.

If it is that easy, why didn't our ancestors just stay in Europe then?

I think you just answered your own question. Not everybody is born as lucky as we were. By what you posted above, it sounds like you leveraged that advantage, and I'm glad it worked for you. These people didn't get that advantage in life; So who can blame them for trying to build something better for their children?

 

[amegicfox]

Ending DACA will send children and young adults who were BORN IN THE UNITED STATES back to countries where they do not speak the language, do not understand the culture, and will probably be exploited (and potentially killed) by gangs who prey on the recently deported.

Great job, 45*.

you are so dramatic !

that's great, with all the knowledge they received for free when illegally in the USA, they can start making THEIR country great again and free 800,000 jobs for American citizens

Two great things in one !

 

[Naraxus]

Because you imply people of a certain social status are illegal aliens before they are human beings. That's about as disgusting as it gets.

I'm not implying anything. I'm calling them what they are - ILLEGAL. Why you feel it's ok for them to break the law is beyond me.
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Children born in the United States are automatically U.S. citizens...

The term you're looking for is anchor baby

 

[prowlmedia]

picture if 800,000 Americans would move to Mexico or China or any other country illegally and expect citizenship, free schools, healthcare, housing etc.

they will be tortured and killed before even passing the border

Globalist Tim wants the USA to become a welfare cesspool and destroy Americans

You know that without Global talent you wouldn't have an iPhone / android oar what ever you are typing this drivel on.

He stated he'd love to build the iPhone in the USA... but there is no talent pool. you could fit EVERY american Toolmaker in a very small room. In China there are MANY football fields. There is a massive lack of Engineering skills being taught correctly in the USA.

Mexicans don't want welfare. USA welfare is shocking. They want work... you know Gardening and Painting etc that NO American kids wants to do because they are too good for such things... they all want to be YouTubers and 'work' in the music industry. Most are barely skilled to be a Barista.

Tell you what. Why don't you personally fix the education system before spouting this tired Rhetoric.

 

[jwhitnah]

Oh you mean like the Spanish, English, Portuguese and French did to the indigenous peoples of the New World?

I'll agree to let these dreamers stay if citizenship will no longer be a birthright, starting now.

 

[prowlmedia]

Of course the way England handled those troublesome Irish is an example of restraint and humanity? FFS get over yourself.

Well that's Religion for you. ... but did England kick the Irish out or out or Wipe them off the face of the earth? Nope.

England understood it's just a small minority... not a whole race.

Also Irish Separatists and Native American Genocide... Nice comparison there fella.

Oh I am Irish by the way... I live in London. Well done... [Slow Hand Clap]

 

[amegicfox]

You know that without Global talent you wouldn't have an iPhone / android oar what ever you are typing this drivel on.

He stated he'd love to build the iPhone in the USA... but there is no talent pool. you could fit EVERY american Toolmaker in a very small room. In China there are MANY football fields. There is a massive lack of Engineering skills being taught correctly in the USA.

Mexicans don't want welfare. USA welfare is shocking. They want work... you know Gardening and Painting etc that NO American kids wants to do because they are too good for such things... they all want to be YouTubers and 'work' in the music industry. Most are barely skilled to be a Barista.

Tell you what. Why don't you personally fix the education system before spouting this tired Rhetoric.

Wrong. He uses China and India because he wants to pay engineers next to nothing in places that have suicide nets. He just wants cheap foreign labor.
If doesn't want to pay USA engineers $300k+ per year that's the ONLY reason.

Wrong. it isn't true American don't do gardening, painting. These are the jobs that are being stolen from the American people especially blacks and LEGAL hispanics USA citizens.

Wrong. Mostly come for welfare because they are uneducated and poor, that's why they leave Mexico in the first place. It is sad but the USA has millions on Americans living in poverty too. American jobs first.

Yes I agree the current education system is horrible and promotes gender/social nonsense studies, globalism, multiculturalism, transgenderism and anti-American sentiments over math, physics, religion. and classic American values.

 

[prowlmedia]

Actually I wonder where all you lot would have to go back to if you got kicked out... you know, cos The Trumpster has a twittergasm or something and says that everyone and their descendents who came in on boats after 1800 shouldn't really be American.

I suppose because of old Grandpa Fred Drumpf he's have to go back to Germany. Angela would love that.

 

[Naraxus]

Actually I wonder where all you lot would have to go back to if you got kicked out... you know, cos The Trumpster has a twittergasm or something and says that everyone and their descendents who came in on boats after 1800 shouldn't really be American.

I suppose because of old Grandpa Fred Drumpf he's have to go back to Germany. Angela would love that.

I'm a LEGAL citizen. I'm not going anywhere but nice try

 

[prowlmedia]

Wrong. He uses China and India because he wants to pay engineers next to nothing in places that have suicide nets. He just wants cheap foreign labor.
If doesn't want to pay USA engineers $300k+ per year that's the ONLY reason.

Wrong. it isn't true American don't do gardening, painting. These are the jobs that are being stolen from the American people especially blacks and LEGAL hispanics USA citizens.

Wrong. Mostly come for welfare because they are uneducated and poor, that's why they leave Mexico in the first place. It is sad but the USA has millions on Americans living in poverty too. American jobs first.

Yes I agree the current education system is horrible and promotes gender/social nonsense studies, globalism, multiculturalism, transgenderism and anti-American sentiments over math, physics, religion. and classic American values.

Um... so you are saying
you would pay $5000 for your phone
There are 1.3 million trained engineers in the USA? (Foxconn alone)
Suicide nets - sure did happen. Foxconn's issue not Apple.
They teach you how to be Transgender in schools?
Globalism - You know we all live on one big ball of rock right? Or do you think it's flat?
Anti-American - The only thing Anti-American is that Disgrace of a President.
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I'm a LEGAL citizen. I'm not going anywhere but nice try

But what about your poor old Great Grandpappy? Bet he's turning in his grave right about now.

 

[RogerWilco]

Well that's Religion for you. ... but did England kick the Irish out or out or Wipe them off the face of the earth? Nope.

England understood it's just a small minority... not a whole race.

Also Irish Separatists and Native American Genocide... Nice comparison there fella.

Oh I am Irish by the way... I live in London. Well done... [Slow Hand Clap]

Then you know it's far more than just religion, and it dates back to the 14th century. My great grandfather came to America in the 1850s because the British government at the time didn't think it was important for his "wretched race" to have food. He settled in the state of Maine and became a U.S. citizen, eventually operating a succesful tourism company.

 

[Naraxus]

But what about your poor old Great Grandpappy? Bet he's turning in his grave right about now.

Not at all. He was a legal citizen of this country so again, nice try

 

[prowlmedia]

Then you know it's far more than just religion, and it dates back to the 14th century. My great grandfather came to America in the 1850s because the British government at the time didn't think it was important for his "wretched race" to have food. He settled in the state of Maine and became a U.S. citizen, eventually operating a succesful tourism company.

Exactly... and now look what's happened... The Irish rule the world. There is an Irish Pub in EVERY city on earth.
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Not at all. He was a legal citizen of this country so again, nice try

Someone didn't get the [Sarcasm] Tag. Ok buddy I'll let you stay.

 

[amegicfox]

it's not mandatory people use iPhones. Today you can buy a great $100 smartphone

Um... so you are saying
you would pay $5000 for your phone
There are 1.3 million trained engineers in the USA? (Foxconn alone)
Suicide nets - sure did happen. Foxconn's issue not Apple.
They teach you how to be Transgender in schools?
Globalism - You know we all live on one big ball of rock right? Or do you think it's flat?
Anti-American - The only thing Anti-American is that Disgrace of a President.

1. you said an iPhone made in the USA would cost $5,000 ?
iPhones are mostly made by robots now so the cost is basically the same if not cheaper in the USA since we have most of the raw materials and we don't need to pay for logistics and shipping costs from another continent.

Don't believe what the MEDIA and GLOBALIST tell you !

2. Stop being anti-American. Your views are anti-American and against the American people and the President of the USA.

3. Stop promoting Illegal immigration
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All these people who single out Tim for "being liberal" and inserting politics too often in public display. Did you miss that many other companies have done the same thing in terms of voicing dissent in many arenas regarding Trumps choices? Cook isn't taking some kind of unique position. And, second, do you honestly think he's the only liberal at Apple who deviously wrested control and without him Apple would be a voiceless non political company? Seriously?

50% of Apple employees DO NOT AGREE with Tim Crook as well as 50% of Apple customers.

Tim must stop forcing Apple employees and Apple customers into thinking his anti-American agenda

 

[prowlmedia]

it's not mandatory people use iPhones. Today you can buy a great $100 smartphone

1. you said an iPhone made in the USA would cost $5,000 ?
iPhones are mostly made by robots now so the cost is basically the same if not cheaper in the USA since we have most of the raw materials and we don't need to pay for logistics and shipping costs from another continent.

Don't believe what the MEDIA and GLOBALIST tell you !

2. Stop being anti-American. Your views are anti-American and against the American people and the President of the USA.

3. Stop promoting Illegal immigration
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50% of Apple employees DO NOT AGREE with Tim Crook as well as 50% of Apple customers.

Tim must stop forcing Apple employees and Apple customers thinking the anti-American way he thinks

Great $100 smart phone...Please enlighten me.

Having actually been to a Foxconn faculty... you are very wrong about the robots 1.3 million staff buddy

Raw material - nope you don't. Most of the rare earth stuff comes from China or Australia. Nor the chipsets or the factories that make them or the skills - even the core chip is designed in the UK

Illegal immigration. I'm not promoting at all. But Trumpton should really take down the Statue of Liberty...Those darn immigrants keep reading the sign "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" ... silly Drumpf.

Anti-American. I am far from anti-American. I COULD Be considered AA By you because I know you are wrong. I am certainly anti-Trumpantz because he is literally the worst president you have ever had. And here's me longing for the good old days of Bush Jr!!!

Dude. You are very very funny (or Russian, I am not sure which) - we've had a laugh but it's time for bed. Me not you... I am sure you have plenty more to say on Breibart or wherevs

 

[usarioclave]

It's easy to conflate 'immigration' with 'illegal immigration' because the press has been ignoring the difference since the election.

The problem is illegal immigration, not immigration per se.

From a fairness point of view, why should some kid who was brought here when he was 2 have a path to legal status when a family of four with a college degree had to wait in line for years? Yes, there are people who are following the law.

 

[amegicfox]

look what the sewer did to get elected and keep latino voters in perpetual slavery

 

[jwhitnah]

If he wants to stand with them, good for him. If DACA is no more and he is breaking the law, Cook needs to resign. Go work for Berkeley.
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look what the sewer did to get elected and keep latino voters in perpetual slavery

That's awesome.

 

[cgsnipinva]

America needs to encourage more lllegal immigration. Illegal immigrants work harder and have a reduced crime rate compared to native-born citizens.

When an immigrant - legal or illegal - moves into your neighborhood, the crime rate goes down.

How do we solve the problems of native-born citizens, with their high crime rates and low economic productivity? How can we get them to be more like illegal immigrants?

You have just lost ALL credibility. Period.