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Haha you literally debunked none of my points, and threw up a meme and spoke in more hyperbolic terms. Way to appeal to the thinking crowd.

Peace be with you, troubled misguided and most of all, hateful one!

Gotta love people repeatedly bringing up Fox News, when I don’t defend (why would I? They’re terrible, and they’re more on your side than mine as I mentioned. It’s a never trumper network, if I were the president I would stop mentioning them all together) or even regularly/often watch it (I have seen it, but I also ‘have seen’ CNN i like turning it on every once in a while to see what the hysteria trough is feeding their swine viewers)

Do you have hannity derangement syndrome too? Our previous president did as well. Thats probably the least of your worries though ;)

You want those points that have been discussed daily by Hannity rebuked? listen to real news for once. It's been established that those that support this president are ok with lies, deceit, and massive misinformation spewed daily by this administration and are not moved by logic or reason.

Also, Fox News never trumper? What world are you living in?
 
“DID YOU SEE WHAT ORANGE MAN TWEETED?!?!?!??” All day every day. Yawn.

And the best the libs have is Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren. 1/1024th Indian and 'First Woman of Color'

At least Trump has done what he says he's going to do, a lot of it. Jobs are at +327,000! That was YUGE! No mention of that on CNN. Or that the market had one of it's biggest days ever today.

Now I just need some affordable insurance Mr President.
 
You want those points that have been discussed daily by Hannity rebuked? listen to real news for once. It's been established that those that support this president are ok with lies, deceit, and massive misinformation spewed daily by this administration and are not moved by logic or reason.

Also, Fox News never trumper? What world are you living in?

“Lies deceit and massive misinformation”

There’s a lot to digest there.

You see when you don’t actually say anything, I don’t have anything to respond to.

It’s like going: “sdfhkksdhfksjdfhklJSDbfljsDbfjsD IFDISU fSDJLHhfjsdhfsDJhfSDKhfkjSDHFdksjf..... what do YOU think about THAT?”

How can I possibly comment on such a thing? Is there something there that I’m not seeing or something? Anything other than a release of emotions strung up as a coherent argument?


Now i’m Done ;)
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And the best the libs have is Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren. 1/1024th Indian and 'First Woman of Color'

At least Trump has done what he says he's going to do, a lot of it. Jobs are at +327,000! That was YUGE! No mention of that on CNN. Or that the market had one of it's biggest days ever today.

Now I just need some affordable insurance Mr President.

When Elizabeth Warren and “hunny you want a beer?” “NO” “I want a beer, who wants beer? Have you had a beer? Have a beer!” (Did she just discover the word beer and its appeal? Who buys that?) periscopes are all the democrats got, you know they’re in trouble!
 
“Lies deceit and massive information”

There’s a lot to digest there.

You see when you don’t actually say anything, I don’t have anything to respond to.

It’s like going: “sdfhkksdhfksjdfhklJSDbfljsDbfjsD IFDISU fSDJLHhfjsdhfsDJhfSDKhfkjSDHFdksjf..... what do YOU think about THAT?”

How can I possibly comment on such a thing? Is there something there that I’m not seeing or something? Anything other than a release of emotions strung up as a coherent argument?


Now i’m Done ;)
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When Elizabeth Warren and “hunny you want a beer?” “NO” “I want a beer, who wants beer? Have you had a beer? Have a beer!” (Did she just discover the word beer and its appeal? Who buys that?) periscopes are all the democrats got, you know they’re in trouble!
If you don't think trump lies or spews misinformation then no amount of reasoning will work with you so why waste my time on you?
 
If you don't think trump lies or spews misinformation then no amount of reasoning will work with you so why waste my time on you?

No amount of vague assertions and hyperbolic statements can make me respond in any Sort of meaningful way. You’ve removed the means by which people debate, by presenting arguments, and then others validating or deconstructing arguments, like a child, so It is indeed a stalemate...

But I’m talking to a chimp. What else should I have expected? I think I covered about much ground as I could with one. Without “but Fox News” and “destroyed prosperity for decades to come” and other useless crap that I’m supposed to counter argue?
 
He has no clue on anything except that he beat every single seasoned conservative politician and groomed to be president Hillary Clinton, against all odds (including near unanimous animosity from the media)

He’s the dumbest guy in the world who just happens to stumbles into good luck most of the time if not every time.

Only idiots and losers and loser idiots contribute repeated success to luck 100% of the time. They don’t understand basic statistical probability. They feel no sense of personal responsibility. For anything. So how could they possibly wrap their heads around the success of others?

Jobs booming When we were told they were going away, stock market generally soaring when we were told it would crash (it has rough moments, volatility is interesting isn’t it), first president to meet with Kim Jung Un and offer diplomacy when we were told we would be nuked, a tax break when we were told it would go up, repealing unconstitutional mandate as promised (though we do need a health care plan, Obamacare was no plan at all it was a scam, and I don’t want to hear the anecdotes paying $200 a month for a $7000 deductible isn’t a plan and I think health care will always be a gridlocked issue in USA sadly, not as an apologist statement but just as accepting that with as divided as we are and neither party really caring about our health least of all, nothing will get done), the dollar is strong, bipartisan prison reform established in a divided country even Van Jones sung his praises of the president on that one and van jones is no fan of trump, rightfully and peacefully pulling troops out of Syria (reveals who’s really on his side when the neocons and EVEN liberals are pro-war all of a sudden... thats all they used to stand for was pacifism and being anti war, now they’ll be pro war if it means spiting Trump), no riots like in France and other parts of the world— and when there are they are isolated, media inspired generally, AND media glorified like its their antifa superbowl.

You’re just angry is all it boils down to. Cant accept an election of over 2 years ago now. Not with the times not living in the present. ITs fine. Again, you’re one of those who cant even admit to himself what you are. So much so you think being hateful and consumed by orange man all day in your head, means you’re woke. In my book, you seem like a joke. A predictable one. One who’s punch line Ive heard over and over and over again.

I think he has a ways to go on getting everything done he promised, for what it’s worth, and I do have my criticisms (where are we at with social media censorship? How come debate can only be had on Macrumors in 2019 without fear of censorship but not facebook or twitter? What about freeing Assange? Talk about caring about transparency, that would be a good start. Liberals used to love Wikileaks until it revealed the depravity of their own party. And yes, locking up people who have weaponized gov agencies for political reasons, all in lock step. You can become obsessed with the intelligence agency cult of personalities like Comey, who might I remind you liberals hated because they said his statement sabotaged the election for Hillary but they have such short memories that he’s now their martyr, but they are plain and simple treasonous criminals who, of many things, abused the FISA courts as a loophole for limitless surveillance power left unchecked even to spy on Trump), but the reality is he has already delivered more than any politician what they said vs what they’re doing. And considering all opposition from all angles, I’m surprised he can get anything done at all. I also don’t believe all these thick skin politicians are genuinely hurt or troubled by rash tweets the President fires off. Something tells me its theatrical and many are buying into the outrage and have done their work for them. Kudos.

Now I’m bored as hell by the predictable screeching so maybe I’ll bow out of the thread for a little and let other silly conversation manifest itself.

That's the thing that gets me about Trump. He beat a Clinton. He beat a Bush. He beat Newt Gingrich - not even Slick Willie could do that. He's not dumb.

It's an easy argument for the detractors to make - he's just a dolt. It's an argument that's not rooted in fact, I think.
 
No amount of vague assertions and hyperbolic statements can make me respond in any meaningful way. You’ve removed the means by which people debate, like a child, so It is indeed a stalemate...

But I’m talking to a chimp. What else should I have expected? I think I covered about much ground as I could with one. Without “but Fox News” and “destroyed prosperity for decades to come” and other useless crap.

I didn't think I'd have to actually google what he's lied about but here you go

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

no reasoning will convince you if you can't admit this

Its like going to AA. you first got to admit you have a problem
 
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I didn't think I'd have to actually google what he's lied about but here you go

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

So now you’re just hurling a URL my way by an obviously biased website, and that embodies all of your arguments because you cant even articulate yourself. Am I arguing with you or politi’fact’?

So let me get this straight as well...

Everything I say is apparently pure puppetry of Fox News assertions, even though I don’t watch it... like at all. And have plenty of criticisms about most of their employees and programs. but you copy and paste a link, and thats not at all puppetry?

Good lord. Stop embarrassing yourself already. Disconnect.

I get it you’re angry AND inarticulate. The upside is You are not alone; there are others!
 
So now you’re just hurling a URL my way by an obviously biased website, and that embodies all of your arguments. Am I arguing with you or politi’fact’?

So let me get this straight as well!

Everything I say is a puppetry of Fox News assertions, even though I don’t watch it... like at all. And have plenty of criticisms about their employees. but you copy and paste a link, and thats not at all puppetry?

Good lord. Stop embarrassing yourself. Disconnect.
ah yes, everything is biased to you guys if it isn't something you agree with I forgot. facts and reality be damned

I'm glad you keep coming back despite you "bowing out"
 
That's the thing that gets me about Trump. He beat a Clinton. He beat a Bush. He beat Newt Gingrich - not even Slick Willie could do that. He's not dumb.

It's an easy argument for the detractors to make - he's just a dolt. It's an argument that's not rooted in fact, I think.

He’s just a dolt and doesn’t understand anything... but he’s also this evil genius we should all be worried is making a concerted and conscience effort to screw up society for decades to come across the entire world that will be irreversible!

No conflicting perceptions there, whatsoever. Nope!

See the difference is there are some people I think are truly evil but also geniuses. I don’t like them, but they are brilliant people so not sure what else I would call them but geniuses. If you’re dumb as a rock, how can you also be an evil mastermind?. It just makes zero sense. Then again, few arguments do in 2019.
 
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Not much to reply to except to double down and say you hate the man. How you think you don’t is what’s most baffling to me but as with all instances where things are at a stand still debate wise without being overly repetitive and regressive: agree to disagree on that assessment.

~snip~

I will no longer have the will to read these lengthy posts completely lacking substance and focus. You will snafu me twice but not a third time.

I know my neighbors and their ways are reflected in the records of how this district votes, what they do for a living, how they voted in 2018 versus 2016 versus 2008-12. It doesn't faze me that you may regard any of that as anecdotal. Fact remains the district is conservative as ever, but the voters ran, not walked, to the polls to elect the Democrat this time around.

Trump is said to revel in chaos, and his supporters here may well have thought DC could use a real shakeup. Why not, and I have thought that myself. "A change is as good as a rest" is how an old saying goes, and it's sometime true.

What my district's voters have seen so far, however, has made a majority of us decide to get a different Congress critter, one that would not be a rubber stamp for an out of control President.

As to hating Trump, again, I don't hate the guy. I was unhappy that he had won but hoping his Presidency would succeed, and there are posts here on the boards from those times that said exactly that.

I freely admit I had no idea how unable and unwilling to take direction Donald Trump would prove to be in a job for which he was so ill-prepared and so unexpectant of winning that he was annoyed at being forced to shell out money for transition expenses regardless of whether he'd actually have to execute a transition to power.

Further, I remain shocked at Trump's disregard for process after he did occupy the Oval Office, never mind his clear disdain for our Constitutional separation of powers. Companies run on process, aim for results. So do governments. Trump has essentially fires shots at the ceiling to get our attention but then he did stuff like let Fox and Friends listen to the likes of Miller and Zinke and Scott Pruitt steer policy as they (not Trump) had in mind. Some of them were atrocious enough that they''re gone now. Some are still there. What qualified person in sound mind wants to fill the vacancies? How to get quality advice into the inner circle when "personal loyalty" is the overriding criterion for getting hired?

Anyway I wish the 116th Congress better luck reining Trump in for everyone's sake. If they don't do it,,,, I predict that American industry will fix that in 2020 and there'll be a further erosion of Republican Party power. Corporations don't have to fund both sides of the aisle during election seasons, and they do know that.

You think guys who run globally involved companies like Apple or McDonalds or their privately held counterparts are going to sit around and watch a President tweet impulsive, personally reactive policy changes for another four years when we're reeling after just half of this guy's first term?

God knows the farmers around here would like to know whether to shift to baby spinach and organic salad mixes or figure that someone somewhere still wants to buy apples and corn and soy next year... sans exorbitant tariffs.

Tim Cook and his peers in industry are no different, and now truly wonder how to deal in a market where supply chains and potential customer bases intersect in negative ways when tariffs are jacked up on Chinese goods and services: Americans have come to expect them to be cheap, and the Chinese have come to appreciate them as the means and opportunities of a burgeoning middle class. Then along comes Trump and... wtf?!
 
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In before the reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Orange man bad
Orange man to blame for $1000 iPhone pricing established retroactive to the trade war
Orange man stifles innovation

.... AND! Orange man erroneously talks stocks. That is, when Orange man isnt making typos.

Also how dare he defend Apple, I am so upset he didn’t say they’re doomed.

My day is ruined. Like yesterday, the day before, tomorrow, And the day after.
I suspect orange man pooped in my cereal too because it tasted kinda funky this morning.


This is pretty funny. I’m kinda sad when I said “Orange Man bad” in my post yesterday a mod edited it out.
 
Because I’m being petty (so long as im transparent about it unlike those convinced petty is actually a good and substantive argument) that’s a lotta elipses. And yep, did “lotta” instead of “lot of” to be ironic. Just so my post isn’t deconstructed.

Anyways-
I didn’t realize the Tim Cook reign has a term limit. Technically it’s THE year since Tim has been CEO FOR 8 by my rough calculations.

You were being so petty, you misunderstood the post.
 
Who’s holding him to it that Apple wil be fine?

Anyone’s word on the future of Apple, means nothing. It’s conjecture.

What is something, is how outraged you guys get over virtually nothing ,which you even conceded is nothing when you say it means nothing. LOL! It’s quite sick! The relentless anger you have for the man. There was never Bush derangement syndrome, or Obama derangement syndrome, despite both having intense critics as well.

But I have never seen anything, in my life, like trump derangement syndrome, political or even pop culture influence level wise either. It’s not just distaste. It’s bizarre lunacy that’s normalized and wrapped up with a ‘tolerance’ pitch. Downright absurd and shameful. Grown adults acting like children intellectually and with NO self awareness clinging to like minded man babies. Just 24/7 temper tantrums. I pity the wasted effort you guys expend on such nonsense. Keep resisting, resist having a decent life too Because it would appear one Cannot have trump derangement and be a peaceful individual. By its very nature, those are conflicting sentiments.

This coming from the guy who argues that Michelle Obama has male genitalia? Really? Have you no shame?
 
You again? R u kidding me? Do u want that post I’ve referred to you half a dozen times? Do you need it?

Hey, when I’m reading through this thread and I see the poster who once made the most bizarre argument I’ve ever seen on this web site regarding the Obamas now claiming that there is no such thing as “Obama derangement syndrome,” it seems like something I should comment on.
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It’s embarassing macrumors has you as a contributor. You seem unstable posting the same
Thing in virtually every pol thread I chime in on and when you don’t like my views. It’s bordering on harassment and trying to silence me.

Didn’t appreciate it then. Dont now. Your efforts are a waste!

I’m not trying to silence you. I just think that it is relevant to point out that while you are arguing now that there is no such thing as “Obama derangement syndrome,” you have previously posted at length on this web site regarding your belief that Michelle Obama is a man and that you once saw her bulging male genitalia when she was on the Ellen show.
 
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Hey, when I’m reading through this thread and I see the poster who once made the most bizarre argument I’ve ever seen on this web site regarding the Obamas now claiming that there is no such thing as “Obama derangement syndrome,” it seems like something I should comment on.

You got some strange hang ups! I’ll start referring to you to this post in addition to the one I always refer you to, which you never rebut oddly enough. Nor do I care if you do at this point, since you’re the one consumed by the subject *not myself*

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...l-district-today.2157320/page-7#post-26852900
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...dition-this-time.2137380/page-4#post-26587849
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...president-obama.2119608/page-11#post-26075572
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...tunes-directory.2131173/page-38#post-26328752

Just from a quick search! So this would be instance #5. Thats pretty creepy and obsessive!

Every time “hey aren’t you guy”. You got problems remembering?

Sorry, macRumors, But bad look having this guy be a contributor. trying to silence and discredit any and all views and wanting to force me to back down from something I simply will not. No matter how many times he tries, and he tries a lot. Very bad look! He’s always off topic to The subject at hand, Bringing it up.

And you say the same thing every time “not trying to silence you bro just pointing it out” I’m sure your intentions are wholly benign.
 
You got some strange hang ups!

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...l-district-today.2157320/page-7#post-26852900
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...dition-this-time.2137380/page-4#post-26587849
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...president-obama.2119608/page-11#post-26075572
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...tunes-directory.2131173/page-38#post-26328752

Just from a quick search! So this would be instance #5.

Every time “hey aren’t you guy”

Sorry, macRumors, bad look having this guy be a contributor. trying to silence and discredit any and all views and wanting to force me to back down from something I simply will not. Very bad look! He’s always off topic too

How is it off topic when you’re the one arguing that there’s no such thing as “Obama derangement syndrome”? The fact that you’ve posted extremely bizarre conspiracy theories about the Obamas would seem to directly contradict that very point.
 
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How is it off topic when you’re the one arguing that there’s no such thing as “Obama derangement syndrome”? The fact that you’ve posted extremely bizarre conspiracy theories about the Obamas would seem to directly contradict that very point.

Because you bring it up every time, I do not. I encourage you to re-read the threads I referred you to. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand who’s bringing up the subject “hey arent you the guy” every time. Disingenuous and if you think aren’t disingenuous, that could be indicative of larger behavioral problems perhaps? Hard to say / none of my business... Except your behavior is outright unacceptable and ineffective. Especially for a CONTRIBUTOR! Good lord.

But you insist on doing the same thing, when you chill out in the threads acknowledging you’ve reached a stale mate yourself and arent gonna twist my arm. 0 for 5 now. Is that winning or what? Not backing down to your pathetic mob games. Thats cowardice. You don’t even stand behind your own bullying games! Thats hardcore cowardice! Hard up for attention. No one else will debate you?

Therefore it would appear you have Michelle Obama Obessive Genital Guessing Game Derangement Syndrome

Ive made up my mind, you haven’t! Sorry it haunts you and consumes your thoughts no matter what the pol thread is. Thats weird as hell

And the fact that it bothers you so much, would make it appear that you could be bigoted or actually have something against transgender people. Like its beyond believable for someone to get a sex change. That is pretty judgmental of you actually

You’ve stayed in the swamp too long, its all gotten to your head ;) Fresh air wouldn’t hurt

Keep fighting the good fight and resisting, little Richard. Your ‘contributions’ in the PRSI subforum are certainly something

Now that we got that out of the way, we can return to the ‘semi’ on topic screeching conversations going down.
 
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Honestly, Apple is having problems because they put their eggs into one basket and got overzealous with pricing.

Somewhat agree with this. Or, more that they let the rest of their products and services linger too long in order to put all their eggs in the iPhone basket. That, and their shift from UX and best products to profits being job number 1, has been burning through a lot of long, hard-earned brand good-will. That can't last forever, nor is the supply infinite.

Just because Apple comes out with a new model every year doesn't mean you have to upgrade every year.

Upgrade every year? Who ever expected anyone to do that in the first place? If either Apple or the Wall Street morons thought that was some kind of reality, they deserve any crash they get. The sad things is that hard-working people have also been duped into 'investing' in the shell game.

Trump is who's ridiculous. Whoever thinks not has bought into the normalization of presidential pronouncements and behaviors that are not worthy of our office of the presidency.
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Nothing Trump says ends up being ordinary because that's his whole schtick ...

Somewhat agree, but I'm also aware enough to realize that the MSM is a ridiculous-magnifier, so if that's where you are building your image of him from, you've been played by them, just as much as the MSM has been played by Trump.

Yes, that is his schtick, and it seems to be working quite well. He has the media whipped up into such a frenzy (along with like half or more of the left-leaning population and then some) that they all can't think straight or reason their way out of a paper-sack any longer.

I read something the other day that said something like, if Trump said oxygen was wonderful then democrats around the country would suffocate themselves to spite him.

Maybe even worse... all the anti-war people have suddenly decided war is good because Trump has actually ended some things he promised to do, that Obama didn't. They are in lala-land.

Classic Trump apologist. The truth is this guy says he knows more about military strategy than his generals. ... But heck, you might also agree that McCain wasn’t a war hero because he was captured.

Or, maybe it's because his generals aren't about military strategy anymore, but about neocon dreams of keeping the $USD propped up at all costs, cutting Russia out of oil-deals, and overthrowing any country that doesn't give the USA what it wants in the name of 'democracy'?

Frankly, I don't much care what kind of war hero McCain was or wasn't. After that, he was one of the number 1 neocon threats to humanity on the planet.

Bush and Obama both were professional and competent magnitudes more than this clown is.

Or, they were just way more eloquent while bending us over to screw us? Competent at what? I don't want a competent neocon any longer, as that just leads to things getting worse and worse. Time to start fixing the mess we created. While Trump is far from perfect, he's done more in that regard already than the last several presidents.

Aside from that, it's less what Trump says than how he easily gets played --and baited-- ...

Or, as mentioned above, maybe he's doing the playin and baiting?

... listen to real news for once. It's been established that those that support this president are ok with lies, deceit, and massive misinformation spewed daily by this administration and are not moved by logic or reason.

Which would be? What's funny, is what you describe applies just as much to the MSM as to Trump. So, where are you getting your news?

Anyway I wish the 116th Congress better luck reining Trump in for everyone's sake. If they don't do it,,,, I predict that American industry will fix that in 2020 and there'll be a further erosion of Republican Party power. Corporations don't have to fund both sides of the aisle during election seasons, and they do know that.

Umm, Congress is the biggest part of the problem. Might I suggest a podcast to help you see that? Congressional Dish.

I don't trust them to do much but look after corporate interests. American industry is a huge part of the problem, so I'm not sure how they are going to fix anything. And, on that, they are pretty darn bipartisan.

Where the heck did this idea come from, anyway, that Republicans were somehow corporate and big-money? Take a look at where politicians get their funding someday. Democrats are just as corporate and big-money... just different corporate and big-money.

Americans have come to expect them to be cheap, and the Chinese have come to appreciate them as the means and opportunities of a burgeoning middle class. Then along comes Trump and... wtf?!

Not necessarily a good situation though. And, before you do too much speculating on trade re: Trump, you might want to study up on TPP.

https://congressionaldish.com/?s=TPP

I suggest starting with number 95, but I think you'll be a bit shocked (especially when you realize it went in under Obama, and Trump repealed it... so at least one thing to be thankful to Trump for!).
 
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Sorry, macRumors, But bad look having this guy be a contributor. trying to silence and discredit any and all views and wanting to force me to back down from something I simply will not. No matter how many times he tries, and he tries a lot. Very bad look! He’s always off topic to The subject at hand, Bringing it up.

Heh... is that you, Donny?

(you almost got the focus and speech cadence of some of his plaintive tweets nailed there)
 
Heh... is that you, Donny?

(you almost got the focus and speech cadence of some of his plaintive tweets nailed there)

Nope I am not Donald Trump. Sorry to disappoint. I’m afraid thats just a continuation of something symptomatic of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Being consumed by the man, and thinking about him, even in situations completely unrelated to him. Like calling out a contributor on this site for creepy repetitive de-railing conduct — that sounds like a Trump tweet to you? Wha?!

Thats the thing, Trump never really leaves your mind as I understand it, its a 24/7 battle. He probably is in your dreams too! Haha

Fight the good fight. Just like little Richard Keep resisting! You’re doing great/good work!

You guys need some words of encouragement, cause you’re a sad bunch. Palpable misery. You also need a hug I feel like it would probably go a long way to chill out on being tense about total nonsense.

Making negative energy your daily mantra is the opposite of love, which I suspect you guys would preach often is something we need more of And is probably a big issue you guys take with orange man, is that he doesn’t show enough of it
 
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