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I suggest starting with number 95, but I think you'll be a bit shocked (especially when you realize it went in under Obama, and Trump repealed it... so at least one thing to be thankful to Trump for!).

Au contraire, we never should have walked away from TPP. All it does is prove no influence is indispensable, and further that vacuums are readily filled by whichever players see advantage to them in the wake of a departing power.
 
Au contraire, we never should have walked away from TPP. All it does is prove no influence is indispensable, and further that vacuums are readily filled by whichever players see advantage to them in the wake of a departing power.

You might have to restate that or elaborate, because I'm not following. TPP was a behind-closed-doors deal that gave power to international corporations and tribunals, and took at away from the people in the countries it impacted. It also (oddly, given the claim of Trump being power-hungry and dictator'ish) gave more trade powers to the Executive branch.

I'm curious what you think was good about it?
 
Nope I am not Donald Trump. Sorry to disappoint. I’m afraid thats just a continuation of something symptomatic of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Being consumed by the man, and thinking about him, even in situations completely unrelated to him. Like calling out a contributor on this site for creepy repetitive de-railing conduct — that sounds like a Trump tweet to you? Wha?!

Thats the thing, Trump never really leaves your mind as I understand it, its a 24/7 battle. He probably is in your dreams too! Haha

Fight the good fight. Just like little Richard Keep resisting! You’re doing great/good work!


Hell all this time I figured Trump Derangement Syndrome was what affects those who still rallied to this impulsive menace's side, no matter if he or others do the steering of our ship of state. Clearly he and they have no plan past defending the indefensible for as long as no one hooks them off the stage. It has made no sense to me for ordinary Americans to defend a party responsible for most of the truly atrocious legislative activities (or failures to legislate) of 2017-2018.

Anyway I happened to take a holiday from reading or hearing much about Trump in December and enjoyed it immensely.. I'm really only hanging out in here again while finishing up the checking out of a laptop's OS upgrade to Mojave the past few days. Almost ready to resume a more peaceful existence in 2019 without the blare of Trump's reactions to this, that and the other thing all getting in the way of my enjoyment of January, one of my favorite months because of the return of longer days and earlier sunlight (when we actually get any). It's been fun but I'm starting to remember why I took that holiday. :)
 
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Donald Trump is the smartest, bestist, Mr. President ever!!!! He needs to abolish congress, the supreme court, the DOJ and be president (i mean emperor) for life. You go Donald!!! P.S. I voted for him 3 times ...
 
Hell all this time I figured Trump Derangement Syndrome was what affects those who still rallied to this impulsive menace's side, no matter if he or others do the steering of our ship of state. Clearly he and they have no plan past defending the indefensible for as long as no one hooks them off the stage. It has made no sense to me for ordinary Americans to defend a party responsible for most of the truly atrocious legislative activities (or failures to legislate) of 2017-2018.

Anyway I happened to take a holiday from reading or hearing much about Trump in December and enjoyed it immensely.. I'm really only hanging out in here again while finishing up the checking out of a laptop's OS upgrade to Mojave the past few days. Almost ready to resume a more peaceful existence in 2019 without the blare of Trump's reactions to this, that and the other thing all getting in the way of my enjoyment of January, one of my favorite months because of the return of longer days and earlier sunlight (when we actually get any). It's been fun but I'm starting to remember why I took that holiday. :)

I like how that post wrapped up positively! Re-read my post i edited it a bit just before you sent this,

I think one day, you guys are gonna regret wasting so much time on total nonsense, thats what it is is a waste. It’s definitely not productive or changing anything, all the screeching. There will be another president after Trump one day maybe 2020 maybe not. He/she probably wont make you happy or fulfill your wildest desires, either. Im not saying you arent entitled to hate Trump more than any previous or even future president, feel however you want — its just the degree by which its part of ones daily thought process, and how common the intensity is, fruitlessly, is what concerns me. so I think disconnecting sounds good. I maintain that the media, whether its liberal or conservative (since so little is ‘neutral’ anymore), is not good for the mindl. It’s not entirely peoples’ faults for feeling loopy, but given not everyone lets their distaste of a president consume them, there is an element of personal responsibility involved.

For what it’s worth, I get burnt out IRL talking to people about politics that even AGREE with me. I generally find disagreements more interesting, so long as it isn’t a derivative one line conversation as it so often is... The constant political climate is fatiguing to put it lightly ... anyways

Rooting for you!
 
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Its real simple. Trump will say anything regardless of truth or fact, that makes him look good. The mans a friggen moron who shouldn't be running a hot dog stand, let alone the country.

Im serious, if we learn anything from this, is that it should be a basic common sense law that you have to pass a basic psychological exam in order to be president cause im willing to bet that the dude is so messed up mentally that his brain cant process anything where he is at fault or not the center of attention.

That, or he can and he's just the biggest A hole on the planet.

Only two rational conclusions here and either should disqualify him from being president in a sane world!
 
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Or, maybe it's because his generals aren't about military strategy anymore, but about neocon dreams of keeping the $USD propped up at all costs, cutting Russia out of oil-deals, and overthrowing any country that doesn't give the USA what it wants in the name of 'democracy'?

Frankly, I don't much care what kind of war hero McCain was or wasn't. After that, he was one of the number 1 neocon threats to humanity on the planet.

Go it. So, Bone Spur Donnie knows more about military strategy than people who have actually fought in battles and risked their lives for our country. These are people professionally trained with years of combat experience. And, McCain is not a hero, but Bone Spur Donnie is.

Wow, talk about drinking the Trump Kool Aid.
 
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It has made no sense to me for ordinary Americans to defend a party responsible for most of the truly atrocious legislative activities (or failures to legislate) of 2017-2018.

You really should look up that Congressional Dish podcast I previously mentioned, if you think that. The host is actually a liberal Bernie supporter. But, she shows (via simpler journalism... which the MSM doesn't do any longer), that Congress has been horribly messed up (and a main source of problems), for a long, long time.

But, first, maybe complete that break you're talking about before jumping back in... because if you're angry now, wait until you realize what Congress has been up to!

Donald Trump is the smartest, bestist, Mr. President ever!!!! He needs to abolish congress, the supreme court, the DOJ and be president (i mean emperor) for life. You go Donald!!! P.S. I voted for him 3 times ...

Wow, I guess that $couple-thousand Russia supposedly spent on the greatest ad platform of all time (by orders of magnitude)... a.k.a. Facebag, really paid off! LOL (said, dripping with as much sarcasm as possible)

I maintain that the media, whether its liberal or conservative (since so little is ‘neutral’ anymore), is not good for the mindl. It’s not entirely peoples’ faults for feeling loopy, but given not everyone lets their distaste of a president consume them, there is an element of personal responsibility involved.

For sure, the hysteria has been ratcheted up to such a degree, I'm not sure how people can even stand to watch it any longer. But, as you say, personal responsibility should play a role as well.

I can't watch any of it w/o getting angry any longer, so I've taken the personal responsibility to turn it off. I get all I need to know through a couple sources w/o all the baloney and hysteria (which also saves time).

Go it. So, Bone Spur Donnie knows more about military strategy than people who have actually fought in battles and risked their lives for our country. These are people professionally trained with years of combat experience. And, McCain is not a hero, but Bone Spur Donnie is.

It doesn't matter whether he knows more or not, if the people who do know are putting their knowledge to use in screwing us over. In that case, the person who is either thwarting them, or at least throwing a wrench in the works, is superior.

Like I said, I could care less what kind of hero McCain once was. He used the last decades of his life making the world a substantially worse place.
 
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I'm curious what you think was good about it?

Being at the table is good. Leaving the scene where we have had and still have allies is not a great idea. I'm a fan of staying to work from the inside, not walking off with a dismissive handwave because it wasn't going to be a materially great venue for us in the short run. I'm sick of short term thinking and a fan of sticking around to learn something about what makes the rest of the world we interact with tick. A lot of the eastern world takes a much longer view of things than the US does. It would be good for us to be in but not running an association of trading partners with ideas rather different from our own. We are better than we act like sometimes.... but not lately... and we took off from TPP in a huff as if only we could have saved it, but that it wasn't even worth saving. Wrong, I say, on both counts.

I maintain that the media, whether its liberal or conservative (since so little is ‘neutral’ anymore), is not good for the mindl. It’s not entirely peoples’ faults for feeling loopy, but given not everyone lets their distaste of a president consume them, there is an element of personal responsibility involved.

I've seen a lot of presidents come and go. Fourteen of them. This one's the worst, by far in terms of long term damage to American interests both at home and abroad. Above all its the level of chaos in this administration. Some of it has been deliberate, a lot of it inevitable due to an intentional inability of cabinet agencies to function without top level decisions that were either not forthcoming or else deliberately withheld as a form of leverage in wrecking agencies whose dysfunction was a goal of Trumps or his cronies and enablers in Congress.

I like politics because it's the lifeblood of a democracy. It's messy and loud. It's enervating and invigorating at the same time. What I do not care for though is the level of hyperpartisan bickering that has us talking over each other's heads about form when it's dysfunction (studied or otherwise) that is killing us and our kids' futures.

At the same time I'm not one for sitting around letting pass the absurd, even Orwellian statements that roll out of this White House (and then out of the mouths of fans of Trump) day after day. The gaslighting of citizens by this government is a real feature in this administration. It's worth taking a break from that now and then sure, and from media duty-bound to report on it, but it's never going to be worth my protracted silence in the face of such brazen lies about #MAGA when the facts on the ground served up by this administration are about enriching the few at the long term expense of the many all around the world.

Trump is an atrocious president. The hatred you speak of has no place in my view of him. He's simply an atrocious president and reveals himself as such every day. He's made us the laughingstock of the planet even as his impulsivity scares the bejesus out of friend and foe alike. He's in way over his head, even his fans will admit on their best days of having an honest look at the reality we're all living in together, in this grand experiment of putting a dicey businessman into the catbird seat of our ship of state.

Fortunately the Constitution still stands, no thanks to Trump's every effort to find loopholes and exploit the ones left in there by the framers who figured they had endowed Congress with enough laws (if not enough spine) to make the checks and balances stick.

Donald Trump is a threat to this nation's democratically inclined future, on a scale and in ways no other president I've seen arrive and leave has ever been, certainly including Nixon, whose perhaps over-tarnished legacy improves by leaps and bounds the longer Donald Trump remains in office.

But it's not really just about Trump, see. It's about us and our tolerance of the intolerable that concerns me. I've heard neighbors excuse behavior by Trump that they would not tolerate in their own families nor would ever have tolerated in a President of the other party. That shocks me. These are conservatives who don't like his policy, his ways of belittling others, the light in which he puts us internationally.

Yet they cannot bring themselves to depart his side and say "Enough: open the government and move on from figuring the wall is a marker worthy of your presidency" or "Enough, stop with the trade wars already, your whole view of trade is unwarranted in the world we live in today." That even though it's one which capitalism largely created by insisting on freer trade. It's why I figure the "derangement" belongs on the Trump fans' side of the fence. It's about disregard of policy. It's about what his government is doing to their own children's future. It ain't pretty. It's a rollback to the 1900s. It's trashing of worker and consumer rights, public health, safety nets, respect for each other's humanity.

There is the matter of Trump's divisiveness. He has not acted for one minute like a president of all the people, and I no longer expect him ever to do that. It's very disappointing.

"We the people" are the cornerstone of what is us, what is our constitution, our pledge to ourselves. Trump speaks to his base and divides the rest of us one against the other. Of course it has helped make our politics coarser and probably driven a lot of good people from the arenas of potential candidacy as well. I lay that at his feet too. It's part of his legacy. Some of the people on both sides of the aisle today display less public decorum than we might have expected of legislators a few decades ago. Does that matter? I think it does. I think it's right to expect more, a higher role model, of our elected officials.,

I take holiday from the fray of participating in arguments from the right about whether we hate Trump, basically. Those arguments are pretty distractive from what matters.

What I loathe are the policies Trump and his handlers and followers both have allowed to seep into our law and culture in the short time he has paraded himself before us as if he were merely hosting a television show. it's real, and it's not entertaining, merely exhausting. That he by his antics does tend to drive policy-oriented discussion from the public consciousness is not the least of his sins.

But he and we not likely to pay as much for those sins as our grandchildren are. He's old, like me. He'll get his walk into the sunset and almost surely not have to wear a gas mask just to walk to a school or job or the links in his waning years. Our grandchildren, not so much.

That's why I keep coming back after my retreats into a quieter space now and then. Those next generations are just not on his radar at all. "We the people... " include our posterity, or so we have subscribed all these years. Trump by his policy, his formal accomplishments, seems oblivious to all that. It's not about him. It's about us.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
 
How sad for America! First leading the blind to all the untruth on international matters, including China, then continues to destroy US's domestic economy and screwing the most potent international brand name internationally. Looking from the outside and sorry to say it, but Americans better stop blaming everyone else for its woes, the current trajectory is down and out, rapidly accelerated by the one elected to sit in the Whitehouse.
 
But I asked a pretty direct question, to which you sidestepped

So i’ll ask again (for anyone): Apple won’t be fine?

That's not the point. Whether Apple is or is not fine (to which I don't know the answer either) doesn't change the fact that Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. He's just wrong.
 
Despite all the Tim Cook and Trump bashing, there is a simple irony here.

Tim Cook and Donald Trump are essentially both blaming China for very similar reasons despite being so different and often complete opposites politically. It's kinda hard not to notice that.

Strange bedfellows huh? :D
 
It doesn't matter whether he knows more or not, if the people who do know are putting their knowledge to use in screwing us over. In that case, the person who is either thwarting them, or at least throwing a wrench in the works, is superior.

Like I said, I could care less what kind of hero McCain once was. He used the last decades of his life making the world a substantially worse place.

More brilliance. Trump drastically increases the Defense budget with the intention of thwarting and throwing a wrench in the military. Excellent! See, Trump really is playing a sophisticated game of three dimensional chess that no one else can understand........because it is incomprehensible. I am amazed at how Trump supporters will rationalize his bizarre behavior and crazy statements.

Let's just get it over with and dress-up Bone Spur Donnie in a uniform full of unearned medals, like other two bit dictators, and throw him a big military parade. That's what he really wants.
 
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As much of a clown as Trump is, he's not responsible for Tim Cook's mismanagement of Apple (aka. stagnation and mindless greed).
 
But I have never seen anything, in my life, like trump derangement syndrome /QUOTE]
You got some strange hang ups! I’ll start referring to you to this post in addition to the one I always refer you to, which you never rebut oddly enough. Nor do I care if you do at this point, since you’re the one consumed by the subject *not myself*

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...l-district-today.2157320/page-7#post-26852900
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...dition-this-time.2137380/page-4#post-26587849
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...president-obama.2119608/page-11#post-26075572
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...tunes-directory.2131173/page-38#post-26328752

Just from a quick search! So this would be instance #5. Thats pretty creepy and obsessive!

Every time “hey aren’t you guy”. You got problems remembering?

Sorry, macRumors, But bad look having this guy be a contributor. trying to silence and discredit any and all views and wanting to force me to back down from something I simply will not. No matter how many times he tries, and he tries a lot. Very bad look! He’s always off topic to The subject at hand, Bringing it up.

And you say the same thing every time “not trying to silence you bro just pointing it out” I’m sure your intentions are wholly benign.

In fairness, if you really did argue what Richard is saying, then frankly you deserve all you get.
I have not seen that original post and I surely hope that you have simply been misunderstood because, man, that would be one for the books.

By the way, you also keep referring to that ridiculous made up (by Trump) expression “Trump derangement syndrome”. (Another gem from the man that gave us “Covfefe”)
In spite of what he would like you to believe, I don’t think there are many people believing the man is “deranged”, but there is an ever growing realisation that he is a spectacularly reckless opportunist with no care for the lasting effects his actions will have on this country.
 
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Would it though? If it were here in the US, American citizens would be pouring money right back into OUR economy; not China’s.

Even if it was ploughed back in the economy, under Trump the chances are you wouldn't see it. You've got a wall to pay for, remember?
 
Trump derangement syndrome is essentially what ignorant people label a genuine raw emotion so they can normalize downright improper behavior from the most powerful human on earth.
 
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