With the larger iPhone Plus, one handed use with the home button makes it semi difficult to reach the home button/awkwardly use your thumb in a downward motion. I could see the ergonomic design with the sensor being placed on the back being useful for some for larger phones. I do think I could adjust to the Touch ID sensor on the back of the iPhone, but it would take some adjust and it wouldn't stop me from purchasing it.
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TSMC Sources Claim 'iPhone 8' Will Have Touch ID Integrated into Display
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With the larger iPhone Plus, one handed use with the home button makes it semi difficult to reach the home button/awkwardly use your thumb in a downward motion. I could see the ergonomic design with the sensor being placed on the back being useful for some for larger phones. I do think I could adjust to the Touch ID sensor on the back of the iPhone, but it would take some adjust and it wouldn't stop me from purchasing it.
Okay, now all is right with the world.
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The iPhone 8 will barely be bigger than the iPhone 7.
You know what that means... another row of icons on the home screen.
Touch ID on the display is fine. My biggest gripe with my iPhone 7 is the home button. It just doesn't work when moist/wet, wearing gloves in winter, etc. They need to figure out a way to make this non-mechanical "button" work in less than ideal conditions. Or add some way of using the power switch on the side to act like a home button press--double press etc.
The S8? Anti-ergonomic? Umm...
Let me direct you to a little known phone named the iPhone 7 Plus.
https://www.apple.com/iphone-7/
You bring your phone to the Apple Store and have it repaired. If it's something you worry about then get insurance.
You know, it's just occurred to me how dirty that part f the display will always look. I don't really notice my finger print all over a black button on the bezel, but when it's on the glass of the display...
Today, your home button would be on the left or the right. With video in landscape, and the screen apparently being 18.5 : 9, there are two possibilities: Either the video uses the full height of the screen and there is a bit of border on both sides, then possibly you can just put your finger on the left side. Maybe the video gets scaled up so you lose a bit at the top and bottom but use the full space, then must likely you swipe the screen from either side and the button is there.
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What is absolutely not a gimmick is that you get a screen that is a bit bigger than the 7+ screen, in a case that is just a tiny bit bigger than the iPhone 7. My wife didn't want a 6+ because the case was too big. She would have liked a bigger screen, but not in a bigger case. The iPhone 8 is just that, bigger screen without the bigger case.
I agree, the design doesn't need to change as much for each iteration once the product design is matured, just like any top of the line laptop of any maker.
S8 didn't change apart from the screen and the form factor. The design stayed the same with same side and back design. It's not a new design, it's the same old S6 design with new screen as far as design is concerned.
The the need for no or small bezel is also a little imbecilic to me. A product with good ergonomics should drive the design of the device, form follows function and not the other way around.
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And what would that made up necessity be?
Of course it's not confirmed. It's a rumored website and it's speculatory. That said, this article serves as further evidence that Apple might be venturing on retaining Touch ID on the front of the display. Either way, it's still an indication being we are just over three months away from the launch.
If true, this pretty much seals the deal for me, and I bought a 7 Plus last fall.
The smaller form of the iPhone 8 will also be a positive, since the 7 Plus is just too big.
The smaller form of the iPhone 8 will also be a positive, since the 7 Plus is just too big.
I have a bag of hyphens and don't know how to use them.
"invisible infrared image sensors"
What does that even mean? Infrared is already invisible. Just a tautology?
As for the Home Button being part of the display, I've yet to work out how it would know if you were interacting with an app or pressing/using the button. Great if they could do it though.
"invisible infrared image sensors"
What does that even mean? Infrared is already invisible. Just a tautology?
As for the Home Button being part of the display, I've yet to work out how it would know if you were interacting with an app or pressing/using the button. Great if they could do it though.
I don't know how they will do it but it will be quite the engineering feat
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It's a separate button next to the touch bar.
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Okay, your right, i thought the Touch ID was under the Touch Bar.
It's a separate button next to the touch bar.
Your opinion might change after having actually used a decent phone with a rear fingerprint sensor like the 6P or Pixel.
Whether its "lazy engineering" is subjective and not factual (lazy is not a factual term). For not lazy people, for example, one can unlock the 6P using the rear sensor while simultaneously performing jumping jacks. That secure grip that I mentioned in the previous post allows you to firmly grasp the phone during unlocking even when the phone is being waved in the air for jumping jacks. I cannot say the same about my iPhone as it is not held securely enough during unlocking that I can wave it around in the air while performing jumping jacks. The front fingerprint sensor on the iPhone is for user convenience, especially for those that lay their phones down on things or are being (dare I say it
lazy. However, a rear fingerprint sensor is just different; yes there are inconveniences associated with it, but it is far from a "lazy" design 
My guess would be that the portion of the screen where the sensor is would be off limits to icons. Images and video can display there but no controls or icons allowed in that portion of the screen. Just a guess.
I have to agree with your headphone jack assessment. Apple's flagship phone won't have the headphone jack moving forward. Part of me believes the removal was an overall plan to use the space for the sensor and feedback solution Apple is moving to with the lack of a Home button. Apple couldn't complete the entire process in time for the production of the 7 and instead of saying the removal was part of a larger overall re-imagining of the phone Apple just went with the "courage" statement which Apple took some push back on and still does.
Anyway, when Apple stops selling a phone without a headphone jack our family will transition to a phone that retains the versatile little jack.
Your opinion might change after having actually used a decent phone with a rear fingerprint sensor like the 6P or Pixel.
Whether its "lazy engineering" is subjective and not factual (lazy is not a factual term). For not lazy people, for example, one can unlock the 6P using the rear sensor while simultaneously performing jumping jacks. That secure grip that I mentioned in the previous post allows you to firmly grasp the phone during unlocking even when the phone is being waved in the air for jumping jacks. I cannot say the same about my iPhone as it is not held securely enough during unlocking that I can wave it around in the air while performing jumping jacks. The front fingerprint sensor on the iPhone is for user convenience, especially for those that lay their phones down on things or are being (dare I say it
What do you think is a more common use case scenario?
A) unlocking phone while doing jumping jacks
B) unlocking phone while the rear is inaccessible, such as in a car mount or on a table
The answer should guide you on what the correct design is.
Your opinion might change after having actually used a decent phone with a rear fingerprint sensor like the 6P or Pixel.
Whether its "lazy engineering" is subjective and not factual (lazy is not a factual term). For not lazy people, for example, one can unlock the 6P using the rear sensor while simultaneously performing jumping jacks. That secure grip that I mentioned in the previous post allows you to firmly grasp the phone during unlocking even when the phone is being waved in the air for jumping jacks. I cannot say the same about my iPhone as it is not held securely enough during unlocking that I can wave it around in the air while performing jumping jacks. The front fingerprint sensor on the iPhone is for user convenience, especially for those that lay their phones down on things or are being (dare I say it
I think you have an excellent point. It may be a compromise that is not acceptable to a specific person, but it is hardly lazy. The last phone I had with a rear home button was the LG G4. This did not have a fingerprint sensor, so was not used for unlocking. But I really loved the positioning of it as a home and wake-up button.
I'm curious about something, as a non-iPhone user. My current phone has the fingerprint reader on the front, but I rarely use it. I have my phone set to automatically unlock at my house, my office, and when connected to my smart watch. I just unlock my phone and watch in the morning, and as long as my watch stays on me, the phone stays unlocked. Does the iPhone offer this feature? If so, is it a reasonable solution to the problem of unlocking a phone with a rear FP sensor that is laying flat on a desk or is mounted in a car?
To make sure I understand you. After you put your watch on in the morning and unlock your phone remains unlocked the entire day, basically until you go to bed again? What's the point? Why not just use the fingerprint reader as designed? Is it slow or unreliable? It sounds like now, if you leave your phone down in Bluetooth range someone can pick it up, unpair it from your watch and be off with it.
My phone is unlocked if I'm near by wearing my watch. If someone grabs it, or my watch, it is locked. If I leave it somewhere, it is locked. Why do I use it? It works if my hands are wet or dirty, for example. It also allows my wife to, say, respond to a text for me while I'm driving. It is just a minor convenience that I personally like and use.
My point here is not to advertise or argue for the feature, but to ask if this exists on the iPhone and, if so, whether it would be an acceptable solution to a rear Touch ID.