[WW] MRville VI: GAME OVER - VILLAGERS WIN

[ravenvii]

Question about your voting record stonyc/Ravenvii. Since anyone can edit the lists, the seer could anonymously post the results of his scan. something should be done to either endorse or prohibit that so that we don't have any issues in the future.

Ooh, that's definitely bad. No meta in the game, folks! Sharing information in that spreadsheet is a big no-no, mmkay? If there's abuse, I'll disallow any external vote counting, but for now it's fine.

Quick question, if I die, and I am brought back to life, does the Priest recover his immunity and/or question powers?

Nope.

I don't think so. Remember one time the hunter used his insta-kill during lynching. He was resurrected, but did not receive his ability back on resurrection.

Correct.

but that was because the hunter had not been attack yet. There for the immunity was never used.

Correct.

If I recall correctly, immunities kick in since they are inherent to the in-game character and not limited to the ONCE a game rule. Once a rule abilities are clearly labeled.

The Hunters have a one-time immunity against their respective 'prey,' so it is a once-a-game thing. But you're right, the other immunities that's inherent to the character (for instance, the Priest's 3-day immunity) stays even if the Priest was hanged and resurrected.

Vote tally for the new page:

appleguy123: 4 (jav6454, Rodimus Prime, NathanMuir, iBookG4user)
philbeeney: 4 (iBlue, Don't panic, appleguy123, stonyc)
nathanmuir: 1 (CBoss)
iBlue: 2 (philbeeney, Mexbearpig)

No vote: mscriv

Majority is 7.

 

[iBlue]

Easy boy . I may not be posting but I have been keeping up quite well. And my vote goes to iblue. No hard evidence. Her posts just seem...sketchy to me.

I can't really defend against an opinion of how I sound but if I sound different, less cheery, it's because as I said at the very beginning when I signed up, I'm distracted with the incredible hassles of buying a home.

What about you, Mexquietpig? I think your loose justification and lack of participation can seem a tad sketchy as well.

...Personally, I'd like to hear more from iBlue, Don't panic and iBookG4user... but someone who is re-concerning my is philbeeney.
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I suspect Phil for many of the reasons you already brought up but also because I know when he is in the firing line he is not above some pretty righteous lies to save his naughty skin. Now deception is often a part of this game so I'm not trying to be judgemental about it but he gives me a very strong feeling of something being "wrong" there.

As for myself, I don't want to out my role directly unless I have to but do NOT have a bad or even potentially bad role. I meant it when I said I was back to being a good girl again. I'm not even really a threat to the baddies so don't eat iBlue, ok? I prefer to feed the village with baked goods, not, you know, myself.

 

[philbeeney]

I suspect Phil for many of the reasons you already brought up but also because I know when he is in the firing line he is not above some pretty righteous lies to save his naughty skin. Now deception is often a part of this game so I'm not trying to be judgemental about it but he gives me a very strong feeling of something being "wrong" there.

As for myself, I don't want to out my role directly unless I have to but do NOT have a bad or even potentially bad role. I meant it when I said I was back to being a good girl again. I'm not even really a threat to the baddies so don't eat iBlue, ok? I prefer to feed the village with baked goods, not, you know, myself.

I'm disappointed in you iBlue. I thought you were above all the tarnishing of my good name, but it seems not.

I'm not deceiving anyone in this game as I'm just a plain ol' villager.

You're still my No.1 suspect as all your talk and bluster about feeding the village with your baked goods, NOT being a bad girl, etc, does not distract me from your real role in this game, which is a bad guy, isn't it?

 

[stonyc]

I'm not deceiving anyone in this game as I'm just a plain ol' villager.

Ok, phil.

That just isn't going to fly this game where every villager has a role. Sure, some actually are normal villagers, like Jav6454 after using his question ability and his immunity expires. And yes, you're correct... some villagers are more "villagery" than others, like the Nightwatch. But even the Nightwatch aren't just "plain ol' villagers"... they have a crucial ability in this game which is to allow the villagers a measure of cohesion by being able to PM each other. Further, they can really swing the momentum in the baddies favor if one of them is infected...

So no, saying that you're just a "plain ol' villager" doesn't fly anymore. That you keep insisting that you are is getting really suspicious because if you really were a member of the NW you would really be putting them at tremendous risk of getting wiped out. I don't know what you are, whether you're a Vampire, WW or Goth... but you're right, you're not deceiving anyone... well at least not the people that have voted for you so far.

 

[mscriv]

Allright, I'm not very convinced by either of appleguy123's or philbeeney's arguments. At this point I'm going to vote for appleguy123

 

[iBlue]

I'm disappointed in you iBlue. I thought you were above all the tarnishing of my good name, but it seems not.

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I don't mean any harm, dude. You know I'll always have a bit of a soft spot for you in these games because you were kind of like "my father" in the other game. Fact remains though that you took the first swipe at me and you can't blame me for swiping back. You simply stand out more than any of the others I may suspect.

If you are a "plain villager" that means you're in the Secret Society and outing yourself like that is a really bad idea. Even that could be enough reason to see justification to your lynching to save the rest of the society.


OK, now, appleguy123 is gaining some momentum. Anything you want to say to defend yourself?

 

[jav6454]

appleguy123 doesn't have anything to defend himself with. He must be a baddie. In which case, time to die...

 

[Don't panic]

i am very tempted to go with appleguy.
he and philbeeney are 1-2 in my baddie list but i don't have a strong preference for either.
on the other hand i would have a strong preference for finishing the day now instead of waiting for tomorrow

a mostly bizarre aspect of phil's defense is that he is not voting for appleguy (which would ensure his own survival). i can't decide if it is good or bad

edit: updated tally
appleguy123: 5 (jav6454, Rodimus Prime, NathanMuir, iBookG4user, mscriv)
philbeeney: 4 (iBlue, Don't panic, appleguy123, stonyc)
nathanmuir: 1 (CBoss)
iBlue: 2 (philbeeney, Mexbearpig)

Majority is 7.

jav you are confusing me with the double votes

 

[stonyc]

If you are a "plain villager" that means you're in the Secret Society and outing yourself like that is a really bad idea. Even that could be enough reason to see justification to your lynching to save the rest of the society.

Which is why he's probably not in the Night Watch.

Re: appleguy123, I have a hunch as to what his role might be. It's not my place to reveal that, but given the momentum building against him, he has a decision to make.

 

[appleguy123]

I'd rather be lynched than give out my role. I don't want the possibility of me being infected, and then having to lie to you guys.
However, Philbeeney is either lying or is telling people that he is NW, both of those are disastrous to the village. Actually, Phil being a good guy is worse than phil being a bad guy in this particular situation.
I have been here to discuss my argument, and I will not give my role. If you decide to lynch me, so be it.

 

[jav6454]

I'd rather be lynched than give out my role. I don't want the possibility of me being infected, and then having to lie to you guys.
However, Philbeeney is either lying or is telling people that he is NW, both of those are disastrous to the village. Actually, Phil being a good guy is worse than phil being a bad guy in this particular situation.
I have been here to discuss my argument, and I will not give my role. If you decide to lynch me, so be it.

You do know that if you reveal your role, the only remaining suspect will be iBlue... please do trust me. Now, what is your role? Besides, the Hunter will obviously protect you this night. I don't need protection for the next night nor the next day; but if need be you do.

 

[Cboss]

I'm switching my vote from NathanMuir to appleguy123.

NathanMuir has eased my earlier suspicions, but it seems appleguy123 is either a bad guy or an easy WW infection target, neither of which is good for the rest of us (WW excluded, of course).

 

[184550]

So with Cboss's recent vote, that brings Appleguy123 up to 6 votes, correct?

If you're a good guy you'd best speak now.

As has already been pointed out, the hunter can protect you if your role really is that valuable.

 

[mscriv]

Additionally, the sorcerer can resurrect you at the right moment if you are that important. If you don't reveal yourself then the undertaker would be forced to reveal his/her identity in order to let everyone know how important you are and that we need you back. If you truly are a good guy then not revealing yourself is neither noble or protecting the village, in truth it is selfish because you force us to waste a vote in killing you. The more noble and sacrificial thing is to reveal who you are and either let the wolves kill you or volunteer for lynching in the event that you get infected.

 

[Don't panic]

Additionally, the sorcerer can resurrect you at the right moment if you are that important. If you don't reveal then the undertaker would be forced to reveal his identity in order to let everyone know how important you are and that we need you back.

that might not be possible

 

[appleguy123]

Oh, I give up., I don't like lying. I'm the goth. I wanted to be a good special for once, but no such luck. I really do think that Phil is either the NW or a really bad guy.
I'll pull a Chris, and sacrifice myself and hunt the vampire, and reveal him to you, if you guys want to pardon me.
At least consider it. If the vampires kill, and I don't hold up my end of the bargain, you'll know whom to lynch.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Oh, I give up., I don't like lying. I'm the goth. I wanted to be a good special for once, but no such luck. I really do think that Phil is either the NW or a really bad guy.
I'll pull a Chris, and sacrifice myself and hunt the vampire, and reveal him to you, if you guys want to pardon me.
At least consider it. If the vampires kill, and I don't hold up my end of the bargain, you'll know whom to lynch.

yeah but in doing so we have activated the vampire so it can keep killings. This make sure he can not become activated.

 

[appleguy123]

yeah but in doing so we have activated the vampire so it can keep killings. This make sure he can not become activated.

No. There are 2 goths in this game.
Also, you'd kill him after I reveal him, and then kill me the next day. I would not send a pm to kill any of you on the night when i am the only vamp.

 

[philbeeney]

Oh, I give up., I don't like lying. I'm the goth. I wanted to be a good special for once, but no such luck. I really do think that Phil is either the NW or a really bad guy.
I'll pull a Chris, and sacrifice myself and hunt the vampire, and reveal him to you, if you guys want to pardon me.
At least consider it. If the vampires kill, and I don't hold up my end of the bargain, you'll know whom to lynch.

You don't like lying, yet you are the Goth and will reveal the Vampire to the villagers.!!!!! Yeah right, I believe you, er not.....

Can you explain why you would do that when your role is to become a vampire and win the game as a team of vampires.

 

[appleguy123]

You don't like lying, yet you are the Goth and will reveal the Vampire to the villagers.!!!!! Yeah right, I believe you, er not.....

Can you explain why you would do that when your role is to become a vampire and win the game as a team of vampires.

It's a compromise to let me stay in the game longer. I would die today if I didn't divulge a role. However, if I make myself useful as a limited seer to the village, I can stay longer and try to get bad guys.
Also Phil, since you are reading, are you lying about being a villager, or are you really on the nw?

 

[Mexbearpig]

Appleguy, you lied to us about being a good guy. What is stopping you from lying again after the vamp is activated?

 

[Rodimus Prime]

It's a compromise to let me stay in the game longer. I would die today if I didn't divulge a role. However, if I make myself useful as a limited seer to the village, I can stay longer and try to get bad guys.
Also Phil, since you are reading, are you lying about being a villager, or are you really on the nw?

honestly if fill came out as NW it would be a worry that all of NW would be toasted tonight as he could become infected before the night so therefor the hunter could not protect him to stop it.
All of NW would then be killed in a single go which will make things go from bad to worse here in the village. That would be multiple villagers lost in a single night.

 

[appleguy123]

Appleguy, you lied to us about being a good guy. What is stopping you from lying again after the vamp is activated?

I never implicitly said that I was a good guy. I dodged the truth and imbued doubt as to my role.
Considering that I told you I was the goth, if there is a vampire attack, you know to lynch me. Also, I like playing this game, and may like to make this soft of deal in the future. Lying to you guys here would make anything I say moot in the future games, and likely put me on a shortlist for all future lynchings.

honestly if fill came out as NW it would be a worry that all of NW would be toasted tonight as he could become infected before the night so therefor the hunter could not protect him to stop it.
All of NW would then be killed in a single go which will make things go from bad to worse here in the village. That would be multiple villagers lost in a single night.

He made a claim that was either demonstrably stupid, or an outright lie. The only normal villagers are the NW so you would want to lynch him either way.

 

[philbeeney]

It's a compromise to let me stay in the game longer. I would die today if I didn't divulge a role. However, if I make myself useful as a limited seer to the village, I can stay longer and try to get bad guys.
Also Phil, since you are reading, are you lying about being a villager, or are you really on the nw?

We are all villagers. It's just that some of the villagers choose to undertake extra-curricular activities at night time. Some like to kill, some like to drink blood and some just lie in bed awake all night wondering if they'll see daylight again.

 

[jav6454]

We are all villagers. It's just that some of the villagers choose to undertake extra-curricular activities at night time. Some like to kill, some like to drink blood and some just lie in bed awake all night wondering if they'll see daylight again.

I lol'd hard at this.