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Wait, Microsoft needs to use a proprietary software to use its device? Where are the FUDsters who will cry closed now?

So iTunes on Windows is not called a "choice," but Zune on Mac is called a choice? I can't roll my eyes high enough.

iTunes doesn't need to be closed. Click any of the links in my sig and sync your non iOS device to iTunes! :D The way it should be. If Apple is going to be selling music then they should let you sync whatever device you want to it.
 
You're missing the point. The point is that the person who asked "What's a Zune?" actually might not know what a Zune is. It was not necessarily some sarcastic question. Personally, I learned about Zune quite recently, maybe late 2009 - while working on a Windows computer on daily basis for more than a decade. MSFT has done a piss-poor job at raising the awareness for that product.

Yeah, a macrumor member who writes "What's a Zune?" with a :D doesn't know what a Zune is. And then proceeds to make fun of the phone.
 
You're missing the point. The point is that the person who asked "What's a Zune?" actually might not know what a Zune is. It was not necessarily some sarcastic question. Personally, I learned about Zune quite recently, maybe late 2009 - while working on a Windows computer on daily basis for more than a decade. MSFT has done a piss-poor job at raising the awareness for that product.

Well said!! Your comment is well accepted unlike some former-Apple users.
 
If you seach his (Quoted *LTD*) history for Zune he's made 54 posts about it and even made threads on Zunes...

Ohhh, okay. I didn't realize it was *LTD* :p.
*LTD* you are evil :cool:.

But seriously, I just tried something on my wonderful DELL Latitude equipped with the marvelous OS called Windows XP: I actually launched the very fluid piece of software called Windows Media Player. I really tried hard but I didn't manage to find ANY reference to Zune. THAT's why MSFT is such a retarded company.
What they do is not *always* crappy but when it is not, they're hopelessly clueless at catching people's attention in a positive way.
 
Why does the majority of posters in Microsoft related threads feel the need to try and put down Microsoft products? Serious question.

Intelligent people ask the question: So what would I think of this product if it didn't have "Microsoft" written on it? Under that assumption, the Zune is just one of many, many products, not standing out in any way, not in any way better than many other non-Apple products. Nobody would choose Zune let's say over a good Creative player if it wasn't for that name. The press would never have hyped the product the way they did if it wasn't for the "Microsoft" name. 90% of Zune sales are because of Microsoft, not because of the product (however, the Microsoft name has lost quite a bit in the last five years, so their new phone OS will be measured on merits and is therefore dead in the water).
 
i, for one, am glad they're ensuring windows phone 7 compatibility for the mac. i love my iphone, i do, and i've had every model since the original iphone from launch. but despite all its added features over the years (the multi-tasking, the retina display, the app store, etc.), to me it's kind of just the same as it's always been, almost a little bit stale. i look at windows phone 7, and it's different. it's new and exciting.

is it better? maybe not, but i feel like it doesn't even have to be.


Ohh, I'm zo exzited!!

and i just can't hide it!
 
Intelligent people ask the question: So what would I think of this product if it didn't have "Microsoft" written on it? Under that assumption, the Zune is just one of many, many products, not standing out in any way, not in any way better than many other non-Apple products. Nobody would choose Zune let's say over a good Creative player if it wasn't for that name. The press would never have hyped the product the way they did if it wasn't for the "Microsoft" name. 90% of Zune sales are because of Microsoft, not because of the product (however, the Microsoft name has lost quite a bit in the last five years, so their new phone OS will be measured on merits and is therefore dead in the water).

Sales because of the name is no different for any known brand, apple included. How many buy ipod over comparable creative or sandisk?

Same goes for hype, media reports on ipod release they wouldnt do for other vendors.


And you have already worked with the MS phone OS? Funny I thought this has just been released.
 
I can add a +1 to the Zune software being far far better than iTunes.

As far as hardware, I still own the original Zune working fine, never had a problem.

At the time I bought it for a few reasons over an iPod

Lower cost (I think 50 dollars less?) for same size
Better screen
Video playback that is actually watchable unlike on the square iPod screen
Wireless sync (do iPods even have that yet? not sure)
FM radio
Better looking (white looked too girly and black just didn't do it for me, too plain)
Customizable wallpaper or whatever on it

Also, not huge but the Apple ear buds are crap, the ones that came with my Zune are amazing.

The iPod touch was the first iPod to even come close to my Zune imo, and by then there were newer Zunes and the iPod wasn't in the same price bracket.

I can't speak to Zune HD vs iPod touch now, but using both iTunes and the Zune software extensively, the Zune software is far superior. Is iTunes marketplace tracks still only 128 Kbps or did they finally fix that? That was a pretty big one as well, anything below 320 MP3 isn't going on my system.
 
I can add a +1 to the Zune software being far far better than iTunes.

As far as hardware, I still own the original Zune working fine, never had a problem.

At the time I bought it for a few reasons over an iPod

Lower cost (I think 50 dollars less?) for same size
Better screen
Video playback that is actually watchable unlike on the square iPod screen
Wireless sync (do iPods even have that yet? not sure)
FM radio
Better looking (white looked too girly and black just didn't do it for me, too plain)
Customizable wallpaper or whatever on it

Also, not huge but the Apple ear buds are crap, the ones that came with my Zune are amazing.

The iPod touch was the first iPod to even come close to my Zune imo, and by then there were newer Zunes and the iPod wasn't in the same price bracket.

I can't speak to Zune HD vs iPod touch now, but using both iTunes and the Zune software extensively, the Zune software is far superior. Is iTunes marketplace tracks still only 128 Kbps or did they finally fix that? That was a pretty big one as well, anything below 320 MP3 isn't going on my system.

No, that's just not true. The Zune software is not better than iTunes. It's impossible because the Zune software was developed by Microsoft, and iTunes by Apple. At least that's the logic.
 
If Microsoft do this, I hope they make a better job of it than Apple did with iTunes on Windows which has to be one of the worst pieces of software available for Windows.
 
It's a Good Thing™, but I don't care.

anything below 320 MP3 isn't going on my system.

Right. Because your ears are so precious and sensitive. Does your skin blister if you wear cotton instead of silk or cashmere, and your tongue burn if you drink tap water instead of Evian? Audio snobbery bores me.
 
What's the saying? Hell froze over? Maybe so.
But I do not plan on using any of Microsoft's Mobile products, so at the moment, it's useless.

If it is better than iTunes however, it may make Apple shape up their bloated program. Which is good.
 
iSync?

Why don't they just use iSync for wireless syncing like Apple do? It's the right technology.


Hang on a minute....



Sorry, I meant Nokia. :p
 
If Microsoft keeps playing the only for win 7 game for a consumer product they basically cut off 1/2 their sales.

The tool if they actually come out with it should be a feature by feature copy of whats offered to Windows users.... Like Itunes is.

If not they are sure to fail...

Also they will fail if they don't differentiate from Itunes ..... I like what someone else said here ..... WIRELESS SYNC.

The iProds main weakness I think is Itunes.... You have to have a computer to really do everything you need to do with the Ipods.

The ball is in your court Microsoft its up to you if you pass or fail.... so far looks like the same old same old.
 
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