Don’t mean any disrespect but you eventually did the same thing.
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Apple Design Chief Jony Ive: iPhone X Will 'Change and Evolve' Over Time
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Don’t mean any disrespect but you eventually did the same thing.
If you ever lived through the late 90's and compared what he was making to what competition like Dell and HP were making... you wouldn't say this.
It's funny, all this hate for Ive yet his products are littered all over all of your forum signatures.
I'm with you on that one. I have an unopened box of iPhone X which I'm going to return. Been using iPhone 8 for the past week which I'm returning also as I realised that those small benefits over my iPhone 6 are not worth the £849!!!
It was hard decision but in the end the sense got to me and told me that for that money I can have a great holiday and more enjoyment than slightly faster phone and better camera. Yeah, on paper the 8 looks amazing compared to 6 but day to day use is super minor. Or at least not wortht £849.
So yeah, you are right. Next year the X will probably get tweaked slightly (or not) or at least it will be much cheaper if they wanna stop producing 8 style look. Otherwise they might have 2 lines. One with the X style and one with the old 8 style design.
They can't have just X with that price tag as the would lose massive amount of customers.
I'm going to try squeeze 2 more years out of my 6 as I believe that 2019 will be the iPhone X(II) to get. Cheaper, better and tweaked
hhh, yes like each year, and they already prepar the customers for thatWhat he means is that a new better iPhone will come out next year.
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Name a company that values design - apple right? They make great products and win awards but give very little back to the design industry.
As the most valuable company wouldnt it be great to lead by example and give back to the design industry by detailing their process. How they make tough decisions. How they focus etc with examples, even using old products so as not to divulge key secrets. I think that would help to enthuse and educate the next generation of designers.
As the most valuable company wouldnt it be great to lead by example and give back to the design industry by detailing their process. How they make tough decisions. How they focus etc with examples, even using old products so as not to divulge key secrets. I think that would help to enthuse and educate the next generation of designers.
Pretty much.
And in time, the AR glasses give way to neural implants and users simply 'hallucinate' owning the product.
We have different ways of looking at it. I don't just go along with what a company changes if I don't agree with it or it doesn't work for my needs. Apple has a very closed and "locking" ecosystem. When people buy into it, its at great cost. So after buying into the ecosystem, if the steward of that ecosystem is making bad decisions with it, then the consumers of the ecosystem are going to be disgruntled. At that point you have three choices.... 1) accept the change and be happy, 2) accept the change and complain about it for the rest of time, or 3) go elsewhere. I chose the last one.
I imagined Jason Stathom talking... specifically him talking in the movie "The Spy" in a couple of scenes that he really sounded like Ives. As I said earlier in here... Jony Ives is a parody when he just talks.
In my case, used to be "littered all over" my forum signature.
Do you mean in the physical sense? Then yes. But in terms of user experience and interface, its by far the most intrusive and limited design apple has ever made.
The notch is horrible from a user interface stand point
some other uses of this notch shape by Apple over the years:
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even the logo
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The image you provided with the dock gave me a good idea. Currently the notch is the exact opposite of the dock example. If the screen can't be normal it can take this route and look like one of my favorite TV shows.
If so inclined, see this post below. Ive *was* groundbreaking in many useful, amazing ways. Removing the cd-rom drive was crazy at first, but later perfectly acceptable. Now he's just a caricature of "good design," focusing way more on removing things I consider non-negotiable (magsafe, USB 2.0 ports, headphone jack) with a fashion-first focus than making great things with well-rounded robust design.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...evolve-over-time.2086998/page-9#post-25438689
Exactly. Ive is turning into a one-trick pony, focusing mostly on uber-minimalism and removal of hardware ports & details. I fear this will catch up with him sooner than later. Many of us are still fenced into the Apple ecosystem from having entered years ago, and are staying very begrudgingly while Apple seems to do their best to taunt us to leave by removing all the things that used to make them untouchable in my mind (super UI, magsafe, laptop with all the right ports you need and none of the things you can live without, like CD-rom) at least for me. My 2013 MBA still works (with Mavericks, to boot, since Yosemite hurts my eyes), my 5s barely works with iOS11 (laggy...) and I can still buy a phone for less than $500 (not $1000) with a headphone jack, so I'll still be a customer. For now.
Oh yeah? Well thank God hardware isn't as easy for Ive to rape & pillage as software is, otherwise the products on my desk (2013 MacBook Air, 5s iPhone) would have been abandoned long ago if he forced the removal of their USB & headphone ports, mechanical/clickable touchpad, and magsafe port. Think about that long and hard...many are still with Apple since we have older hardware that still works and which we're happy to keep using, and also we're pretty embedded into their ecosystem, fortunately/unfortunately.
Do you really believe this? How can you or anyone not notice how over the last 4 years, he's been about fashion first and then the rest. Minimalistic UI appearance first, functionality be damned. Thinness & minimalist removal of hardware ports first, overall function be damned. Jewelry-like iPhone first, functional durability be damned. This is the reason many of us criticize our once beloved Apple products we're sticking with for now, for reasons I've stated above.
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Ive was pretty great and ground-breaking. Now he's a caricature of his former self, focusing on removing too many things and providing too many answers to non-existing problems.
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I have a feeling there is a lot of confirmation bias over at Apple. Everyone there is afraid to point out bad design decisions when it comes to their products and software. The new Apple campus will continue the circle jerk of a workplace.
It seems like Apple fired all of their usability engineers, because they could not get along with Ive. There will be no fix while Ive is employed at Apple.
^^^^These. These are what's going wrong at Apple today. So well said, you two.
I recall more group photos in press in the past with Jobs surrounded by his lieutenants of ground-breaking design & products, while it seems what we see most today in articles about Ive is just him.
Wallpaper*: Sir Ive, we would be honored to have you design our next magazine cover.
Ive: (gave them a piece of blank white paper)
Wallpaper*: Amazing! Such simplicity and minimalist!
Ive did his best work when he was tempered by Jobs who kept on the straight and narrow. This is more a failure of Cook then anything. If Cook exercised some vision he wouldn't have the help losing the plot.
I will grant that in the lack of a controlled environment Ive has gone from his natural state to a cancerous tumor.
fwiw, that's a limited edition cover.
if you go to a newsstand and buy this month's Wallpaper* Magazine, it will come with the real cover.. not the J.Ive guest version.
Apple's main contribution is that they have taught the rest of the industry to care about design, by showing that that design can matter in the mass market, and that people are willing to pay a premium for a well-designed product. For decades the industry’s conventional wisdom held that design wasn’t important. The industry’s leaders created crappy software and crappy hardware. Apple’s success has upended the industry’s value system. Almost all of Apple’s competitors value design more today than they did a decade ago: Microsoft, Google, Samsung, HP — all of them.
And we are better off for it.
Apple's design decisions are as clear as day to anyone who studies their products. It ultimately depends on whether they have the heart for the truth and the will to see it.
Pretty much. Tim Cook is a supply chain guy. He doesn't care about innovation.
I don't disagree, but in Apples' case they got there when Steve Jobs was at the helm. He's no longer there and without him, they are over controlled by this guy. Now I see them in the "emperor who has no cloths" phase. Some of their design choices are just stupid, but because Apple made them and they are the design king, everyone goes goo-goo ga-ga about it. There seems to be no one in the company that can say, "hey wait a minute...". If any other company created such designs, they would flop. I honestly think that they could sell millions of nearly anything, no matter how stupidly it looks, and people will pay a premium for it. Its like some of the ridiculous dresses you see stars wearing on the red carpet. The AirPods are a perfect example of this... Every time I see someone wearing them (which has been rare to be honest), I chuckle at how they look like a dork. I realize everyone has different tastes, but come on?
Why would phones be over if they're regularly updated via software, and by the same measure why would AR glasses be the future when, guess what, they're powered by software?