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So when do you kill apps besides when they’re stuck?
You do realise that it’s not a way to quit apps on a daily basis.

Not a way? Some people like to keep their "recent apps" section to just apps that are relevant. If I am going to have a recent apps section on a phone, like multi tasking, then I only want apps that I may go back to later in the day, or that I want there as a reminder. The apps I'm only going to be using once I want to have cleared away after use.

Otherwise you'll just have 50+ apps in your multi tasking area and getting back to any specific app is a pain. Not to mention now that we have the quick swipe on home bar go to back and forth between apps, you want your multi tasking/recent apps area to be short and concise - if you want to use this feature effectively, anyway.

Clearing them away by holding is a minor pain, and definitely a compromise. Not the worst thing, but it used to be more seamless.
 
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The fact is people will buy it and it’ll send a message to Apple that prices starting £999 are acceptable.
For whatever it's worth, I fully expect to release an iPhone X+ next year. A 6.4" display crammed into the current 8+ form factor. With a starting price of $1199.

You may want to save your outrage for next year when Apple releases an even more expensive iPhone...
 
I stopped by the Apple Store today to check out the X. I would like to comment that the screen is indeed more "yellow" than the 8. I turned off both True Tone & Night Shift to test it. I thought I'd be more blown away by an OLED screen but I actually prefer the colorful hues of the 8 more than the X.

Colour Filters when turned on in iOS allow to shift towards from a yellow hue to blue, one advantage on OLED is no more colour shift when viewing from an angle, that was one of OLED advantage over LCD
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For whatever it's worth, I fully expect to release an iPhone X+ next year. A 6.4" display crammed into the current 8+ form factor. With a starting price of $1199.

You may want to save your outrage for next year when Apple releases an even more expensive iPhone...

And hopefully edge to edge screen, Apple iPhone X looks so dated
 
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I found the booger on top to be a exceedingly ugly to look at and a terrible use of space with broken up status bar looking like it’s been forced there. Aethtetically this screen is an abomination with either wasted space areas or really fugly overlays and things weirdly cut off when the text meets the curves. This is a kind of a monstrosity Steve would have laughed at if he saw it. Really sad, the fist iPhone I owned that I can truly call ugly.
 
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So I tried the X today. As an iPhone user of 10 years I was dismayed at how I found myself fumbling around the device, it felt ... alien to me, it looked like iOS but it didn’t *feel* like an iPhone.

The notch, and the “ears”, in the flesh are horrid, and the swipe up to return home gesture often got confused with the gesture to bring up the App Switcher although when I tried to swipe through open apps with the new gesture, I went back home or into the main switcher!

I’m sorry, I’m not being picky to troll, I’m a huge Apple fan who is genuinely concerned about the direction this product is taking; it feels utterly disjointed and the fact an Apple store colleague shouted out that he was doing a “demo on how the new phone works” said it all.

It wasn’t “a demo on the new features” it was specifically “how the new phone works”.

The beauty of an iPhone was that you could pick it up and just use it. I certainly couldn’t do that today.
 
For whatever it's worth, I fully expect to release an iPhone X+ next year. A 6.4" display crammed into the current 8+ form factor. With a starting price of $1199.

You may want to save your outrage for next year when Apple releases an even more expensive iPhone...

That would be acceptance. You are better off voicing disapproval now, that way Apple may listen through sales etc and not keep raising the prices.
 
So I tried the X today. As an iPhone user of 10 years I was dismayed at how I found myself fumbling around the device, it felt ... alien to me, it looked like iOS but it didn’t *feel* like an iPhone.

The notch, and the “ears”, in the flesh are horrid, and the swipe up to return home gesture often got confused with the gesture to bring up the App Switcher although when I tried to swipe through open apps with the new gesture, I went back home or into the main switcher!

I’m sorry, I’m not being picky to troll, I’m a huge Apple fan who is genuinely concerned about the direction this product is taking; it feels utterly disjointed and the fact an Apple store colleague shouted out that he was doing a “demo on how the new phone works” said it all.

It wasn’t “a demo on the new features” it was specifically “how the new phone works”.

The beauty of an iPhone was that you could pick it up and just use it. I certainly couldn’t do that today.

Hmm you are concerned about the product? lol

I am sure, I BET 100% PRE-IPHONE YOU probably complained about the iPhone and its touch screen and all this new approach you have to learn to navigate when "buttons" worked.

Sorry but you sound whinny. Learn the new method , adjust to it and then complain later in 10 years when it is revamped again.
 
Hmm you are concerned about the product? lol

I am sure, I BET 100% PRE-IPHONE YOU probably complained about the iPhone and its touch screen and all this new approach you have to learn to navigate when "buttons" worked.

Sorry but you sound whinny. Learn the new method , adjust to it and then complain later in 10 years when it is revamped again.

No, because before iPhone, touch screens were non capacitive and a horror to use. The iPhone was a breath of fresh air.

You call it whiney (corrected that for you, I’m not a horse) I call it constructive criticism.

It’s a discussion forum, not a bow-down-and-accept-all-Apple-do-is-perfect forum ...

You want to last around here? Don’t arrogantly leap into assumptions about other people’s past or experience.
 
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I see, so somebody who spent $1200 on a phone wants to justify their purchase? What a surprise!
I see, someone who maybe doesn’t have the money to buy a $1200 phone wants to justify their decision by giving other people a hard time. What a surprise!
 
So I tried the X today. As an iPhone user of 10 years I was dismayed at how I found myself fumbling around the device, it felt ... alien to me, it looked like iOS but it didn’t *feel* like an iPhone.

The notch, and the “ears”, in the flesh are horrid, and the swipe up to return home gesture often got confused with the gesture to bring up the App Switcher although when I tried to swipe through open apps with the new gesture, I went back home or into the main switcher!

I’m sorry, I’m not being picky to troll, I’m a huge Apple fan who is genuinely concerned about the direction this product is taking; it feels utterly disjointed and the fact an Apple store colleague shouted out that he was doing a “demo on how the new phone works” said it all.

It wasn’t “a demo on the new features” it was specifically “how the new phone works”.

The beauty of an iPhone was that you could pick it up and just use it. I certainly couldn’t do that today.

I dunno. I got to play around with the iPhone X today at the Apple store and the gestures just came to me. Swiping up to close an app just feels so fluid and natural that having to press on the home button just feels so archaic and cumbersome in comparison.

Activating the app switcher requires you to swipe up and make a conscious effort to hold the app in position while the multitasking view shows up. Not something you would do by mistake.

And being able to force touch the camera icon on the lock screen to activate the camera? Why the hell can’t I do that on my 8+?

I even love the animation of how the app fills in the “horns” at the top of the screen when you launch it. Very clever really.

Did I upgrade my iPhone too soon?
 
The phone is gorgeous in space gray.

I am 6’4, so I have large hands and my only complaint is it’s too skinny. The screen actually seems small because of this and IS small from a width perspective compared to my Note I switched from.

FaceID is the best tech I’ve seen on a phone. Insanely good.

Incredible build quality.

Fast.

Beautiful screen, notch and all.

Butter smooth.

Best phone I’ve ever used.

There WILL be an iPhone X plus...it’s like this form factor is begging for it.

Put a case on the iPhone X and you’ll like it because it adds heft. I use the Apple Leather Case and the iPhone X feels great.
 
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Unsolicited review: I’m still amazed when faceid does work BUT it has already failed more times then the last 365 days of Touch ID. Just doesn’t really work when the phone is “far” away from the face, which I guess I do. But when I put the phone within range it definitely works. Extend the range Apple!!! Then touch it is really gone. But to be more than honest. It’s freat tech but Touch ID is better because you have your phone in your hand and then boom it works. Faceid: still not perfect but definitely better than expected








As customers around the world begin to receive an iPhone X, several early adopters have turned to the MacRumors discussion forums to unbox and share their first impressions of Apple's all-new flagship smartphone.

We've already seen iPhone X reviews from the media, but opinions shared by regular customers can provide additional insight. We've rounded up some early opinions about the iPhone X below, with very minor editing for clarity.

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iPhone X photo via MacRumors forum member pudcraft

MacRumors forum member pudcraft shared an overwhelmingly positive review of the iPhone X. He said the device has a "very comfortable" overall size and an "absolutely beautiful" display. He added that Face ID is "really fast," but takes some time to get used to after upgrading from an older iPhone model.MacRumors forum member eoblaed said he tested Face ID while wearing a pair of polarized Maui Jim sunglasses, in conditions such as bright sunlight and partial shade while moving, and said "it worked every time."

"Same here!" replied kingneptune117. "I have a pair of Maui Jim Freight Trains. Face ID has no problems working with these sunglasses."

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MacRumors user tatsumi upgraded from an iPhone 7 Plus and feels the iPhone X has "more comfortable one-handed usage," without compromising on camera quality or battery life. He said the TrueDepth camera system's sensor housing, often called the "notch," is something he "won't notice" going forward.

He added that the iPhone X's narrower screen width, equivalent to the iPhone 8, is something that he will need to get used to. MacRumors forum member Prissy likewise wrote that the iPhone X screen feels narrow.

A handful of threads have surfaced that claim the iPhone X's display is warmer with a yellower hue than previous iPhone models, even with True Tone and Night Shift turned off, and it may be more noticeable at certain viewing angles.

Apple shared a support document today that says if you look at an OLED display from an off-angle, you might notice slight shifts in color and hue. Apple said this is a characteristic of OLED display technology and is normal behavior.

In addition, there are some reports of possible isolated manufacturing defects, including a green line on one iPhone X's display and a piece of hair stuck behind the rear-facing camera lens of another. These types of issues generally pop up during any new iPhone launch, and affected customers should contact Apple.

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iPhone X photo via MacRumors forum member nia820

MacRumors reader nia820 said he is "impressed" with the iPhone X, ranging from its glass finish and cameras to its OLED display and Face ID.More first impression threads on the MacRumors discussion forums:

o "My iPhone X impressions so far" by Kart
o "Very impressed by the fast charging on the iPhone X" by The Game 161
o "Finally got mine!" by SIVIOKY

Article Link: Early Adopters Unbox iPhone X and Share Overwhelmingly Positive First Impressions
 
I think I see the problem. You have 100% misinterpreted what you've read. 100%. Actually, I'm not quite sure how you came to the conclusion you did reading my quotes. Suffice it to say, that's nowhere near what I was saying. Apple says that some, not all, polarized sunglasses affect Face ID. We don't know. Those guys identified a style/brand that works with Face ID. The cost had nothing to do with it. Anecdotally, we know that style/brand combo works with Face ID. They could have identified a pair of Walgreens spindle sunglasses. The cost would still be immaterial. There's nothing in my quote that comes close to suggesting what you were thinking. Sounds like you got hung up on the brand and decided to ignore anything else.

I believe it is you who's been doing the misinterpreting. According to Apple, whether FaceID works with sunglass has nothing whatsoever to do with the style or brand of the glasses and everything to do with whether the lens let through enough IR. So is it at best completely misleading to suggest that this one brand is compatible (with no assurance of any kind that this is true), or that style matters at all (which clearly it does not). Otherwise, a totally useful piece of information.
 
I’m digging it. Only thing I’ve noticed is that Face ID doesn’t work well when you’re lying in bed. Like when I’m a lazy bum as soon as I wake up. I know part of my face must be blocked by the pillow, so it’s not their fault, just one time I miss Touch ID. In normal usage, Face ID is pretty fast and reliable. Screen is great, camera seems great so far, notch doesn’t bother me at all vs having a notch across the entire top of the phone. The new gestures are easy to master because they’re very intuitive. Feels like the first really big iPhone upgrade in a long time.
 
Final Consensus:
Its not that bad really. All things considered.

Haha, you’re right.

I remember in 2011 when Steve Jobs got a cheer for announcing the iPad 2 came in black and white.

Now, we get a superb product like iPhone X and people desperately search for anything that is 100% perfect, reliable, better than all competitors combined... etc.
 
I see, so somebody who spent $1200 on a phone wants to justify their purchase? What a surprise!

Buyer's remorse is a very real phenomena and is generally associated with high value purchases where many good alternatives exist. Right now I'd say is a tough time to make a phone purchase considering the many good alternatives so from my perspective, it is actually quite a surprise, especially considering the number of significant, user experience altering changes in the X. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
I believe it is you who's been doing the misinterpreting. According to Apple, whether FaceID works with sunglass has nothing whatsoever to do with the style or brand of the glasses and everything to do with whether the lens let through enough IR. So is it at best completely misleading to suggest that this one brand is compatible (with no assurance of any kind that this is true), or that style matters at all (which clearly it does not). Otherwise, a totally useful piece of information.
I can't misinterpret what I'm saying. I'm the one saying it. There is nothing in my comments that resembles your interpretation. According to Apple, whether FaceID works with sunglass has nothing whatsoever to do with the style or brand of the glasses and everything to do with whether the lens let through enough IR. This is exactly what I am saying. It's exactly what I've been saying since the first comment. Those guys found a style/brand combination that lets enough IR. Another more expensive brand (Versace for example) might not, another brand that's just as expensive (Gucci for example) might. A cheap brand from Walgreens (SunBrights for example) might not while another cheap brand from Walgreens (NightOwls for example) might. Identifying which brands work with Face ID is a good thing. They potentially identified one. Whether they are cheap or expensive is immaterial.

But let's quit. You can't see past the naming of the brand. At least you have an idea of a style and brand that might let through enough IR.
 
If they're actually using USB to restore, they're kind of the people that deserve USB 2.0 speeds. Also, from here out, they'll never use USB again...

By the way, these phones have USB 3.0 transfer speeds over lightning.
Well since internet speed here is 1.5Mbps down, iCloud isn’t an option. It’ll take way too long to upload 12Gigs from my phone and download it on a new one. I will continue to use USB for backup and restore.
 
It's hard to get an accurate feedback currently because there will be a mix of unbridled hysteria from new owners who would be happy with two cans and a piece of string so long as 'it' has an Apple logo and is "new".

When you've given away £1000 for what is a ... phone. Yes. A phone. You're hardly going to admit that you've been rather foolish in your haste and realise that you've just paid way over th odds for something that is not at the forefront of technology any more. It's just looks better than other stuff in the line up.

Also it's early days yet. People are clearly making excuses for the notch. Yes. It is ugly. And detracts from what is proclaimed to be a full screen experience. Yes. There is a bezel around th screen in what was stated as being 'bezelless'. Yes it has Face ID which now seems to be more fashion than function. And yes. The Animoji is great for a percentage of Emoji enthusiasts who want to impress their 'friends' with the 'feature'.

Apple IMHO have ironically with the X have shown how far behind their past and recent range has become. Folks think the X is the future. It is. In the Apple range. But not compared to the competition. IOS is a great ecosystem which is losing its USP- simplicity. And it is that which has kept many on the fence in the Apple camp.

Now we have a range or phones the look dated compared to the new flagship. But the flagship itself is dated with bezel and notches. And it's £250 dearer than its dearest rival. How does that work then?

Subisidisation by phone providers. Definitely. The big hit of a grand never seems to be so bad when spread out over two years. And the novelty aspect also plays a big part. Iphone users have never had such wonders as magnetic charging (its' overrated) and bigger screens (better when total screen estate) or OLED displays.

In the not so distant past all of these innovations were laughed off as being 'an Android thing' Now it' iOS running the show. It's amazing and so next year. It's not. It's so last year. And last year's phone at next year's phone's price shouldn't really work. But this is Apple. And logic and reason will always bend to misguided loyalty. And so it has happened again. For now.

The question is, will current iPhone owners go for the old style 8 or the 'new X with its price premium? If so and this becomes the norm then is Apple ushering in a new starting price point for its phones?

Its too early to say (as these review sites summarise everything with ) because as the thread header states... early adopters are feeding back and there's a reason why theyre early adopters and its not because they're slightly fanatical about all things Apple. It's because they live and breathe it. So not your typical potential buyers and so cant give an objective viewpoint for that same reason.

So. Leave it a month and come back here again with more balanced feedback, yes? That ok with you? Good. That's that sorted. Whew!
 
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So I tried the X today. As an iPhone user of 10 years I was dismayed at how I found myself fumbling around the device, it felt ... alien to me, it looked like iOS but it didn’t *feel* like an iPhone.

The notch, and the “ears”, in the flesh are horrid, and the swipe up to return home gesture often got confused with the gesture to bring up the App Switcher although when I tried to swipe through open apps with the new gesture, I went back home or into the main switcher!

I’m sorry, I’m not being picky to troll, I’m a huge Apple fan who is genuinely concerned about the direction this product is taking; it feels utterly disjointed and the fact an Apple store colleague shouted out that he was doing a “demo on how the new phone works” said it all.

It wasn’t “a demo on the new features” it was specifically “how the new phone works”.

The beauty of an iPhone was that you could pick it up and just use it. I certainly couldn’t do that today.


Couldn't agree more. It's not intuitive and it goes against the whole apple idea of making something that "just works." It feels like a complex gizmo instead of a beautiful tool that most of the earlier iPhones were. The more I look at it, the more I see decision making by a committee and less of a clear simple vision.
 
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Nope, it's $1000 or $1150. Further, it's a pocket computer with a processor faster than the entry-level MBP.

Isn’t amazing that in terms of tech, the MBP pales in comparison to the iPhone X. What a time to be alive.
 
Unsolicited review: I’m still amazed when faceid does work BUT it has already failed more times then the last 365 days of Touch ID. Just doesn’t really work when the phone is “far” away from the face, which I guess I do. But when I put the phone within range it definitely works. Extend the range Apple!!! Then touch it is really gone. But to be more than honest. It’s freat tech but Touch ID is better because you have your phone in your hand and then boom it works. Faceid: still not perfect but definitely better than expected
I'm 6'4 so I have long arms and mine works with my arm fully extended. I'd advise re doing your FaceID and hold the phone a little farther away when registering it.
 
Press and hold and once the red dots appear u can. Lick them or swipe em up. Thanks goes to the angry guy who pointed that out!
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When u swipe control centre down the percentages show up
Yeah but I like the convenience of just glancing at it.
 
Which brings us to a real world battery life test.


Worse is it prematurely shut down at 10%. Most other devices auto shutdown at about 3%.
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Glad you had the chance to hit the store and hold one in your hands. Work hard, do your best, and hopefully one day, you'll be able to buy one. Wishing you luck!

Too bad money doesn't buy class or manners.
 
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